Vyperion Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Discuss the latest episode Stargate SG-1 [10x12 - Line in the Sand] *SPOILERS* [glow=red,2,300]EDITED - Topic title changed to reflect new order on Gateworld, Episode title added.[/glow] As usual all off-topic conversation will deny the power of origin and will be mercilessly slaughtered. Hallowed are the Ori. SO... This episode we see a small village being helped (unsuccessfully) and SG-1 sans Daniel trying to defend it with the usual consequences. There's some moderate action to begin with leading in to the character-drama between Sam and Cameron. The Prior from early season 9 makes a return and fails, yes fails, to use his abilities to reveal the concealed Sam and Cameron. The sub-plot see Vala's love return and try to once again convert her to origin BUT he is the one who is convinced that the Ori's followers are not who they appear to be. Luckily everything is safe by the end with a last funny moment. A little average, would've preferred more fighting at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 In yet another twist we have what is listed as episode 13 of season 10. Even the TV guide has it listed that tonight's episode should've been number 12 "The Bounty" but instead we have been treated to episode 13 "The Shroud" Oh god...not again... Time for more topic renaming... ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilander72 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Haha... :D Here's a suggestion: A new pinned topic called 'Episode confusion is becoming an epidemic. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hmm... according to Gateworld, episode 12 is named: "LINE IN THE SAND" They have "BOUNTY" as episode 15 and "THE SHROUD" as episode 14. Reading the short storyline on Gateworld, leads me to believe that indeed "LINE IN THE SAND" is more in line with what you describe was aired: 'SG-1 tries to defend a planet from Ori invasion'. While "THE SHROUD": 'SG-1 is stunned to discover that their own teammate, Daniel Jackson, has been turned into a Prior of the Ori.' And "BOUNTY": 'Cameron Mitchell finds himself the target of an alien bounty hunter, who tracks him to his high school reunion.' Don't seem to coincide with your desciption of events. Now, Gateworld has been wrong before on the order, but not yet on the short storyline. So, could it in fact have indeed been episode 12, named "LINE IN THE SAND" that was aired and Vyperion who got a bit confused (or am I placing too much trust in Gateworld)? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 This has to be "line in the sand" because they use that quote in the episode. Let's see... it was an ok episode - it felt kind of as if we'd walked in halfway through. The lack of Daniel made pretty much no difference... hell, Teal'C and Carter hardly said anything. Even Chritters didn't say that much. It was really more about Vala and her beau. It didn't really excel or fail in any way. It was just nice and steady. Perhaps the thing that was best about the episode was that we got to see a bit of the Ori ground forces. I'm somewhat bemused as to why they're using ring platforms... I'd have thought they'd use direct beaming, although the fighter dropping one of those was pretty cool. Additionally, why didn't they use fighters to take out the ground resistance instead of throwing away troops... isn't there an Ori equivalent of the A-10 Warthog? It seemed kind of pointless to deploy them if all they were doing was dropping a It is kind of irritating that they keep using the P90s single handed... to be honest, even a crack shot is going to struggle to keep a pistol accurate single handed in semi-automatic but I guess the SGC used some kind of Ancient technology to create P90s exempt from recoil. It was also hilarious to see them getting the villagers using the guns after literally 10 seconds of training... is it SoP to carry a crate full of guns? Or did I just miss the part when they ran off to get them? Finally, it feels like - again - we're having writers trying to imbue some kind of deep significance to the struggle... but utterly failing, although I liked the Prior's "One meaning!" line, I wonder if that was written by a recovering Catholic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Well i've attached a poll to the topic - you can now vote on how you good you thought the episode was. I'm going to have to do some serious research to find out which episodes air when ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Good episode! Interestingly enough the canceled series has delivered better episodes than Atlantis lately. The dimensional shift as a protection against the Ori was neat. The religious aspect of the episode was also interesting. The Ori fighters and mobile ring platforms were just cool. I wonder, however, why the powerful Ori don't possess some Asgard-like beam technology. The beginning of the ep was somewhat strange. Daniel is missing, and the story starts as if nothing happened. Hmm... Maybe Sky really aired this ep out of order? Either that or Daniel has already died/ascended so many times that people don't give a damn anymore when the guy is absent... Oh, and Adria was terribly missed! ;D BTW, where's Dr. Lam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyperion Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 BTW, where's Dr. Lam? At home with Michael Shanks, that's why he's taking a break. I checked the info and the episode described was The Bounty - Cameron makes himself a target of a Bounty Hunter and tracks it to When I checked Gateworld they had Line in the Sand listed as number 13 and Bounty as number 12. I just checked now and they have re-arranged the order making this one number 12 and The Bounty BUT I did confuse Line in the Sand with The Shroud [glow=red,2,300]Original post edited for conformity[/glow] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Doctor Lam dissapeared ages ago. Anyway i have now watched this episode and am rating the episode Good. I'm glad we're getting more of the Ori plot going and it was interesting to see Toban (Is that his name?) again. I just loved how the Prior twisted the meaning of the Ori teachings. It adds a bit of suspense as it shows they are now at a point where they don't really need many more followers, so are willing to kill off some of the believers. They've got their army. Speaking of which - the droppable ring platforms were a nice touch. I have to agree though - the P90's are getting a bit old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilander72 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The first couple of minutes really annoyed the h3ll out of me, but ignoring that it turned out to be another average episode (would propably be good if the first part had made sense). Wonder if we'll ever find out why they air these in wrong order? :-\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Why do people keep saying that these episodes are in the wrong order? How do you know these are in the wrong order? Every episode guide I've seen online has a disclaimer somewhere basically saying that broadcast order of unaired episodes isn't final and is subject to change. It seems to me that the stations would know what they're doing better than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The production order IS known and generally, that's the order in which the episodes are aired. If you take something like Firefly, the network totally ignored the intended order and just threw them on any old time. Here, it's not going to have a big effect on anything... it's just irritating for people paying close attention to the intended order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 In the case of Atlantis - it's very clear why they air these episodes in a different order. Beckett died in the last episode of Atlantis. So if they had aired Sunday as Episode 14 it would have been quite weird if he had died and then in the next few episodes he's still alive and well as if nothing had happened. It's probably the same with SG-1 - somthing that will become clear later in the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The production order IS known and generally, that's the order in which the episodes are aired. Sometimes, sometimes not. Generally the Production order is decided upon based on cost efficiency and availability of certain cast members rather than continuity. What happened to Firefly was a fluke that doesn't usually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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