Stargate SG-1 10x13 [The Road Not Taken]

[TFMF]

Discuss the latest episode of SG-1 [10x13 - The Road Not Taken]

 

You can also vote on how good you thought the episode was however you should only vote if you have seen this episode.

 

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[spoiler=Brief synopsis]An accident sends Samantha Carter to a parallel reality, where the Ori are attacking Earth.

 

 

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[Vyperion]

My hopes for this episode is that it's the one the guide says it is. ;D

 

What I hope is that it's not a repeat of Daniel Jackson's alterverse trip where Earth was destroyed which I think it will be so they can do a Lexx with out it being permanent.

 

Doubtful but hoping.

[Vyperion]

Well it started good, had a nice middle but the ending SUCKED!!

 

They have faced the Ori and survived thanks to the Atlantis chair, the Ori turned up at Earth and were saved by our Carter...

 

.. that's when the good bit stops.

 

The latter part prattles on about civil liberties and once again we have the self-absorbed, self-righteous American prattling about lost freedoms even though she is the interloper in THEIR reality. She gets the glimpse of outside awareness from an obviously biased media and suddenly she gets the hump about it.

 

The worse part is they have a point. Whne President Landry goes on about revealing the Stargate to the public and the political backlash, she has no right to call their governing into question because her reality hasn't dealt with it and they use similar methods to suppress that info.

 

The biggest plothole is about Daniel. I don't see how he would've stayed with them after seeing them take away all those freedoms. He'd have rather left them than help them or at the very least protested and gone to jail. This isn't just limited to him. Most of the people are the same in personality which means they should be the same overall.

 

The ending kinda tails off, nothing resolved with a glimmer of hope in an alternate Rodney McKay which kinda points out how this will end.

 

The episode plays like a decent writer started it, quit and then passed it to the media student on work experience. Not the best, certainly the worst for this half.

[maybrick]

The worse part is they have a point. Whne President Landry goes on about revealing the Stargate to the public and the political backlash, she has no right to call their governing into question because her reality hasn't dealt with it and they use similar methods to suppress that info.

 

 

I take it you're a Bush supporter then? The parallels to current events is obvious. The point is that you can't take away people's rights indefinitely because of a threat that will always be there. There has always been terrorism and just because 9/11 happened is not reason enough to let the government have a blank check to do everything and anything it wants, and people should be willing and able to speak out when the government tries to subvert democracy.

 

Sorry to be so political, but this is a basic American Principle (whichever parallel universe you happen to live in.)and has nothing to do with being either "left" or "right", just in case anybody was about to accuse the show of being liberal.

 

Anyways, not the best episode. It could definitely have been handled better.

[Centurion]

The episode plays like a decent writer started it, quit and then passed it to the media student on work experience. Not the best, certainly the worst for this half.

 

You're probably right! ;D I was also thinking they were going to extend the Ori plotline, but they didn't, which was kind of disappointing. It didn't make sense either. Please, a whole planet vanishes before the Ori ships and not a single one stays behind to investigate what happened, thus allowing Earth to return to its dimension, and the story to go on. ::) If you ask me, they are exaggerating this "the Ori can't scan parallel dimensions" stuff. Come on, what are they doing to the powerful Ori? >:(

 

I also don't get why SG writers seem to be biased against the exposure of the Stargate program. This wasn't the first time they've suggested that revealing the program would generate chaos, conflicts etc., which is highly improbable if one takes into account that most countries (at least in the regular SG-1 universe) already know about it due to the Atlantis mission.

 

I have to admit I liked to see some known faces, such as the TV woman, Hammond... Oh, bring him back! :) Actually, that's the only reason I think this episode was "good", despite the fact that it was clearly a rehash of There But For The Grace Of God.

[Vyperion]

I take it you're a Bush supporter then? The parallels to current events is obvious. The point is that you can't take away people's rights indefinitely because of a threat that will always be there. There has always been terrorism and just because 9/11 happened is not reason enough to let the government have a blank check to do everything and anything it wants, and people should be willing and able to speak out when the government tries to subvert democracy.

 

Sorry to be so political, but this is a basic American Principle (whichever parallel universe you happen to live in.)and has nothing to do with being either "left" or "right", just in case anybody was about to accuse the show of being liberal.

Actually no, being from the UK, I just the most inane bits of his administration

 

The underlying principal in parallel universes (and by extension alternate timelines) is that if all the players are the same and events are the same then invetiably the outcome will be more or less the same.

 

The whole plot is basically that America has become totalitarian but we have none of the details as to how it eventually became that way apart from the big moments where Anubis and the Ori attacked Earth. We know that Carter read the mission reports about previous incidents offworld but she's been forced to justify some of her own mission reports to equally bias people in her own universe. You think she'd be a little more open minded.

 

I'd like to see how people would react to another worldly threat from outside our solar system. To my knowledge that hasn't happened in real life so drawing a comparison to terrorism which is at least an enemy with an equal level of technology to an alien invasion just doesn't work.

 

During and after the times of World War 2 rationing took hold of this country (the UK). Food was restricted long after the war ended, even milk only became commercially available in the last twenty years. And in those days ID cards were mandatory. Nowadays people see having certain liberties taken away as being a bad thing - end of story. It's those civil liberties that allow terrorists and the like the opportunity to casue more havoc and death and destruction, the same freedoms that allow people to say and do anything so preachers  of hate can spout chants of jihad against the country that live in and claim benfits from.

 

Case-in-point - Battlestar Galatica and suicide bombings. After avoiding visiting London on the day it happened I found it less offensive. Given that several cities have been affected by such acts in the past few decades the outcry has been minimal because it was told in a way that made them feel regretful at doing it. They weren't high and mighty, they were down and dirty.

 

We don't know what has happened in the last ten years to lead up to this, all we have is a few digests of events which didn't turn out the same. What was the phrase I heard someone use? It was in Angel when they are translating the Shan-shou script and the fake translator goes "Reading the bible in English isn't the same as reading the orginal Aramaic" (well something like that). Sam got the translation and decided it was fact.

[TFMF]

I have this weeks episode an Average rating.

 

What i would have just loved to have seen in this episode, is the Ori actually destroy Earth. This would have made it similar to the episode where either Carter or Jackson (can't remember who) went to a parallel Earth where the Goauld were attacking and was conqured. If a similar setting was played out here it would have really added affect to when the real Earth gets attacked, as we would have seen what the devistation would have been.

 

Instead we got a lot of political chat and speeches. On the one hand, it was nice to see that the parallel earth was suffering riots and other such problems which did add some impact to Earths impending doom, but the problem is - they kind of forgot the Ori. It wasn't really the attack on Earth that was their problem, but rather the political issues that had been created from it.

 

It was still quite nice to watch, Carter was quite good in this episode. Another thing i liked was Mitchell - how his life totally took a U-Turn was quite cool.

 

It did mean that most of the other SG-1 regulars got hardly any airtime...

[Tenebrae]

Man... I was watching this and the SECOND that ball of energy appeared over Sam's machine, I went "PARALLEL UNIVERSE EPISODE!"

 

At which point it became obvious it would be a bit of a bore... which it was. Ultimately, the problem with parallel universes is - it really doesn't matter what happens there, no vested interest...

 

This played like a fairly average episode right up until it became a thinly veiled statement on the now OFT espoused security vs. freedom. Thinly veiled, ham fisted... I think even some of the particularly inarticulate Star Trek episodes managed to be less foolish but I suppose they managed to sidestep that as they were not in such a contemporary setting.

 

This episode also really shows that Tapping can't carry an episode - she's just support.

[Tablet]

I voted 'good'

 

although it was just a filler and none of the main story was enhanced because of it, it was nice to see what would have happened if the stargate program went public, and the whole planet disapearing was really cool

 

I'm still waiting for the alternate universe where everyone has beards ;)

 

Update - Image uploaded, late but what the hey i've just got through over a season and a half in 2 days

[Hilander72]

Average across the board. Nothing new, seen it before a thousand times...

 

Thinly veiled, ham fisted... I think even some of the particularly inarticulate Star Trek episodes managed to be less foolish but I suppose they managed to sidestep that as they were not in such a contemporary setting.

Starts with a J and ends with aneway? ::)