GhostShadow

Presumably, this is one of the reasons most extras are only trusted with walking along corridors.

 

This episode was irritating because it was essentially a cop out. They make the big deal of Borg space... then "oh, we're not in it anymore."

I agree, even while they where in Borg space, they didn't even run into the borg very often. It was just to get more ppl hooked I bet.

I'd make humourous slurs on your character but I can't be bothered.

ah right, got to get back to your online chat eh? get a life

well anything has to be better then that April fool's joke about it a new star trek taking place on a Klingon bird of prey (people who where around back then know what i mean)

ha, the extras are funny, when ever you see an extra in the eps you know they are gonna die. Like in the episode "Drone" there was an ensign molkahe (sp?) and when I heard he was an ensign I just new that something bad was gonna happen.

And c4 might get upset if you star dissin on VOY and their cast ;P

I believe its episode 2 in season 4, but its called "the gift". its the one where kess gets her powers. Well I noticed something pretty funny. The part when Seven of Nine is on the surgical bio-bed and the Doctor and Tuvok are next to her exchanging banter, there is this another security lady kinda off in the back round. She is a bad actor because she doesn't know what to do with her hands, and if you pay attention to her, she actually LOOKS UP AT THE CAMERA for a second or two. you will miss it if you dont pay attention to her, but I thought that was pretty funny. you can tell that she was never in another eps after that mess up.

Ha, thats to funny. I never played Legacy. Never got around to buying it, seems like I prob should. Looks intresting

I really want to play it, I like those kinds of games, the ones where you actually have to think. I am just hard pressed to find it NE where. I saw it earlier this year at StarFest, I should have picked up a copy there but the woman selling it was wayyyy over pricing it.

Has any one heard about this game?

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/startrekdeepspacentf/

I was looking around online and came across it, was wondering what N E die-hard Trekkies thought about it.

Well the writers missed out on alot of good chances to explore situations. I agree it would have been interesting to see her come up again, but i think that the reason they didn't was b/c they didn't want t get side tracked.Well the ppl who wrote TNG wanted to Explore space and not the political aspects of the Star Trek Universe. I mean look at DS9 and you see how it was all revolved around the Dominion. </mho>

aye, i understand where most of you are coming from, for me i love ST so much b/c it has a back bone that cant be broken. I mean there is a moral code, a stable federation, a utopia that must be protected from the scars of war and the brutality of totalitarianism and its interesting to me to watch people like Capitan Picard stand fast to their ideals and to see how they can totally grasp a situation and understand the needs required to handle the case they are in.

BSG is a great series, I love it alot, its dark and philosophical. But you do not see the moral conduct that should be expected of a Human, and to be honest, its to religious for me. I like to think that Humans can become more, that they can understand what goes on around them, and from what I have seen in alot of Sci-fis out there, you just dont get what you got in ST.

I, for one, miss Star Trek very, very much. I'm going through withdrawal. I need a fix fast. I suppose I'll have to re-watch my Voyager DVDs again  :D

 

c4 B)

aye, I am with c4 on this one folks. I miss it alot, and I watch it every day and am still not sick of it> Battlestar is a good series and all, and so was SG1 (until around season 9). but there s so much left un explored in the final frontier that ai just cant help but miss it. I know it will come back tho, if BSG can make it as long as it did (26 some odd series right?) and Dr. who.... well I can say that it will be back, with an impact.

wow, how far Star Trek has fallen...

I just watched the eps with that special Vorta, and I am still baffeld about it. I dont know what it is, device or real powers, but I think its safe to say that it was a slip up on the writters part. I did find it funny tho that Kira said " one this is for certian, she will be back. The question is, who she will bring with her.." and yet that women vorta never appears agian, lol.

ok, I dont know if any of you watched the TOS marathon on TV land on channle 78, but they went thro almost the entire series of TOS. I wathced alot of it, and I watched "ballance of terror" for the first time all the way through. Well, they showed the Romulan Bird of Prey fire its plamsa weapon, if you watch it the plasma just appears out of no where, its not fired out of a gun or anything. does anyone know where its shot from, or was it just graphics at the time.

Ok, and another question I have, is I watched the TNG eps "the defector" and data explaind that Romulan tactics where that the Romulans never attacked first, why did he say that when all the skirmishes that have occured so far the Romulans attacked. was there any time that the Federation attacked first? Why would data say that?

In the DS9 Episode 'Jem Haddar' (Season 2 finale) The Vorta in it had a special ability - Telekinesis (I think) - she was able to through people onto the ground with her mind and was able to deactivate that forcefield (although that could have been a set up)

 

What ever happened to this ability?

It also could have been some sort of device that allowed her to do that. The Dominion has proven itsself to have advanced technology. There is an old quote that comes to mind " Any techonolgy that is sufficiantly advanced would seem like magic to thoes who do not understand it" -Arthur C. Clarke.

I think its easier to slip a device into a vorta then to create one with kenetic powers. It coulds also explain why there is no other vorta like that. You could argue that maybe the Foudners didnt think that Vorta needed the device or special powers later on due to the fact that there where millions of Jem'hedar Soldiers who would protect them. But yea, I was asking myself that question when I first saw that eps.

 

The other related question is, what is the function of the Queen? I know that the point of her is that there is a whole lot of mystery, but while the Borg are usually a giant collective, she's somehow at the helm and can order them all around? And in First Contact she is basically killed, am I to assume that was just a temporal paradox where she in the "real" timeline ISN'T dead? Or did I miss something there?

 

Just two things that I can't figure out when they come up :P any explanation is thankfully welcomed

Long time no be on here. But I am currently reading the Star Trek Book "homecomming" and it goes into the borg a great deal I recomend taking a look at it. I have the E-book, just PM if you want it.

The Queen came about through a borg code called "The Royal Protocal". It was made to give the borg more direction. Yes, the borg can all communicate and assimilate but they just grew into a monarchy and developed the "Royal Protocal".

Also, the Borg queen can not die in a sense... all she is, is a protocal with a body. Its mistaken to think that she controls the Borg, the Borg control her.

I am gonna have to say that the Federation would win. I know I am a die hard Romulan fan, but we gotta face the facts here. The Romulan empire is in no condition to wage war. not after the Dominion War. The Klingons would have a good chacne but they are to divided with glory and honor. The Cardassians do not boast a military force that could beat the Federation. And thus its down to the Dominion and the Federation.

I say that if there was just a plain out war between the two, no cardassian uprising and no worm hole aliens. just brute force... the Dominion would win. But brute force is not the only part to war. The Federation could still win. Section 31 has proven it can kill the founders. It would depend on what the siuation is.

I think that Buffy would be hard pressed to find a steak that could peirce Data... :-/

I just got a bunch of old kung fu movies. With Bruce lee and jackie chan. they are awsome, lol

the ENT E is a battelship. it was made in the wake of the Dominion war. it would win hands down. They have quantim torpedos

oh, well I like the one you have right now better, lol. was riker trying to DL porn? uhm.. a few orion slave girls eh?

Well' date=' depending how you look at it, I'd say [b']the Q[/b] are potentially the most dangerous, since the most powerfull usually have the most potential for being dangerous.

i'm afraid i don't quite agree. Not even the annoying Q we know, has ever really hurt any of the enterprise crew, though he had the power to do it; instead, he had even helped them several times. ok, he hurt other species, but he was punished for this by those of his kind.

i'd say borg are far more dangerous, not because of their weapons, or their capacity to adapt very quicly, but because their conviction that they are a superior race and that they are doing the right thing. (remember that hitler thought the same)...

Well there is a difrence, hitler was but a man.. the borg are well... the borg.

They are very powerful no doubt, but as seen in "best of both worlds pt. 2" the borg can be put to sleep, ppl can hack into the borg and mess with them. I.E. Species 6339. was able to mess up and destroy an entire cube by giving them a virus. And also in TNG, "i,borg", Picard was ready, capable, and willing (at first) to introduce the virus into the brog collective and kill them all. And in there lays the weaknes of the Humans, their compassion.

Humans are way to nice for my taste. It can be a strength at times.. but it is also a weakness and a big one. If it was not for some luck, that borg that picard transported abord in "i, borg" could have attracted more borg and soon a cube would be on their @$$. Also, the Federation is weak in the sense that its military it not prepared (pre dominion war). In the eps "best of both worlds Pt. 1 and 2" you see that the most ships that where able to encounter the borg cube was about 30 ships. If I am not mistaken all of them where destroyed and 11,000 soldiers killed. And in the end of part two you hear commander Shelby say "we will have the fleet back in just under a year"...

Thats sad if it took them 1 year to make only 30 ships. That is why I will still say that the Jem'hedar are the most dangerous. Their weapons are made for war, they are bred to fight and win, their ships where more heeavly armord and armed then the mighty federation. If you dont remember the last eps of season 2 in DS9 showed 2 jem'hedar destroyers (bug ships) take out a galaxy class starship.... they even pull a kamakazi on the federation, now call me crazy but that is pretty dangerous. Not to mention the Jem'hedar can personaly cloke and evade sensor, excel in hand to hand combat, can keep fighting at peak effectivness with out eating, sleeping, or drinking. The Jem'hedar are bred to be dangerous and that is EXACTLY what they are.

"victory is life"

Arktis, the question about data and his head being messed with, was that in Nemisis? I remember laforge was toying arund in there for the "memory interface" or what ever. They wanted to give Data's info to the new/old android "B4".

That's so sad. On so many levels... evidence that a man can be so devoted and faithful if you will' date=' to a philosophy, planned and constructed for him, without his understanding; indicative of not only his own missjudgement, but [i']yours, mine, and many others[/i]. Or perhaps even the article itself it's all a nicely constructed lie. I hope you will remember the criticisms - brought by myself and others - of the site that the piece you gave the link for is posted to. At any rate, if you want to buy that bulls**t, it's up to you. or rather up to your conditioning and your level of understanding. Regardless, I think it should be obvious, or rather should logicly follow, that repetition of a specific message is a key factor here.

 

Edit: I hope you can believe me when I say that the above paragraph represents the nicest way I can put forth my point. Debate me if you like. In fact, I want that. Let's just remember that we need to keep it civil. IMHO "Good faith" ought to be the key term we should keep in mind.

 

Also, perhaps the word "bulls**t" is a little too strong and derogatory. It's just that I couldn't find a suitable synonym to express the specific meaning I was trying to get across. I hope you can forgive that.

bloody hell dude, the man i s60 years old and you are dissing him, his life style and ideals like some 12 year old. Real mature man. Real effin mature.

And its all a matter of prespective man, what you call "conditioning" I call the truth, and what you call the truth, I call a miss guided lie, told by cowards and re-enforced by men like you who are no better then then the ppl who tell thoes lies.

Also, perhaps the word "bulls**t" is a little too strong and derogatory. It's just that I couldn't find a suitable synonym to express the specific meaning I was trying to get across. I hope you can forgive that.

and same goes for me, what I say is the nicest way I can put it...

I found this artical in one of my regular sites and I dont believe anything is more true.

"im tired"