GorunNova Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Moderator edit to clean up link Copyright bill satisfies recording industry ... anyone have any comments on this? :thinking: ... at least it has only been -tabled-... let's see what happens to it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 All I can say is that it seems to be the same everywhere. Lots of government support for the industries and no support at all for the common people/voters!! Better remember this for the next elections I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 This might not be as bad right now as it seems given what's going on in the house of commons this week it may get put off till the fall sitting. Especially with the budget and same sex bills getting all the attention. Although the flip side would be because said bills are getting the attention, this one could be pased with little to no effort. Then again it is Ottawa so who knows what those clowns are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the6ofpopes Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 So far from what I've read of the bill (haven't had a chance to read it completely through yet) not much is changing. Mostly what the bill effects is who has to pay royalties & under what conditions they have to be paid. The assertion that it will now be illegal to download music is just hot air, that right will still exist once the bill is made law. The bill does move Canada one step nearer to radifying the WIPO treaty, but again the WIPO treaty has nothing to do with the right to download music & is only about the collection of royalties. The recording industry in Canada with direction of there American counterparts (RIAA) has once again out done itself. They got the copyright act amended in 1996 in a attempt to add to there revenue's with the CD levy. This backfired & allowed Canadian's the legal right to download music. This time they tried to make it illegal to download music but have failed, sure they will now be able to force ISP's to hand over downloader names via court order, but it's a very long & expensive process, unlike the US process. But even if they get a individuals name they will loose any court case against the individual. The main reason for this is simple, there still collecting the CD levy, but there are other reasons beyond the CD levy which entitle Canadian's under Canadian laws to legally download music. These reasons will only be brought to light when the 1st case goes to court, I'll make sure the lawyer for the defendent of the 1st case is made aware of them (hint, you only need read our charter of rights to understand what rights I'm refering to). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 As a Canadian citizen, I'm interested to see if the prices of blank cd's / dvd media will go down after this new law, or whatever it is, is in effect. And if it does, by how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psheldrake1 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 This bill won't be passed until they finished their downloading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted December 4, 2005 Share Posted December 4, 2005 For those unaware this bill is now dead and gone in Canada due to the upcoming Federal Election up here. I guess Steven Harper(leading of the oppisition party who forced the election) wanted to continue his downloading. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 Heh... I figured as much. A lot of nasty bills get tabled, but go nowhere... (probably a lot of good ones too, unfortunately ;p) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I guess Steven Harper(leading of the oppisition party who forced the election) wanted to continue his downloading. :p Now there's a good reason to have an election, best one I've heard. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philly Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Heh hells yes, dont have to worry about this, until if/when someone wants to re-table the idea, but I dont think we have to worry about it for at least a couple of months :> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbb Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 The evil of the industries control over the people must be opposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 The evil of the industries control over the people must be opposed. What? What does this statement have to do with this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipodean Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 All I can say is that it seems to be the same everywhere. Lots of government support for the industries and no support at all for the common people/voters!! Better remember this for the next elections I say! Do you really think the big parties are all that different on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 All I can say is that it seems to be the same everywhere. Lots of government support for the industries and no support at all for the common people/voters! Common people/voters don't have a right to steal other people's property. Not even TV or music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 All I can say is that it seems to be the same everywhere. Lots of government support for the industries and no support at all for the common people/voters! Common people/voters don't have a right to steal other people's property. Not even TV or music. But somehow you manage to justify it for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 No. I BUY everything I download. Babylon 5 = bought. TNG = bought. VOY = bought. SG1 = bought. SGA = bought. And so on and so forth. I don't steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 This is not a debate over the morality of file sharing people. We are discussing a new Canadian Bill in this thread. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 All I can say is that it seems to be the same everywhere. Lots of government support for the industries and no support at all for the common people/voters!! Better remember this for the next elections I say! Do you really think the big parties are all that different on this one? My point was to just collectively not vote, or vote blanco for some countries with where voting is obligated. When many people do this, it result wil result in a fiasco for the politicians, since it is a clear sign of non-confidence in the politics of a nation. It can even result in insuffucient votes to get a lawfull result. If this happens multiple times in a row, the parties will certainly see that they have to alter their line of political thought. The real problem is getting over 50% of a country to do this, I'm quite certain it will not happen any time soon, if ever... But this also has no direct impact on copyright (indirect a plenty..). To discuss further, we'll need another topic. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 This is not a debate over the morality of file sharing people. We are discussing a new Canadian Bill in this thread. Stay on topic. I AM on topic: "Common people/voters don't have a right to steal other people's property. Not even TV or music." Therefore I support the Canadian Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReSiStEnC Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 then please stop downloading pr0n illegally oh and i still love you theaveng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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