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dyn dyn dyn d d dyn dyn! B) frozen ice ice punch hole! M/S explorer Ice red baby ship! :p keep "in good spirits" ;) the irony too hehe :D another unavoidable crash! Am writing this in eCS2.0b3 sucks when comes to offimatic and printing with my cannon ip 4000 but has os2 "djvu" spell check :), also has freebsd, kurumin linux, dos 7.1, plain dos 16bit, win2k/xp embedded sp2, planned some home lan test with netware 6.5 :D. I am content with my "cheap pc" many views, need a 2 core mobo but am waiting AMD low their prices enough :) I must confess am a hard to die win2k user I highly dislike xp longhorn 2003server and vista also many linux/*nix clone l333tness or almost useless distros. I want my "Psycodelia Sight Desktop 2008" pre-installed OS/truly world wide web spyder, with wireless touchy pad with LCARS customizable skin option/usb keyb with mobile cell telephony included this time >:( and a flat touch screen personal cinema sized with a projector and 1 dvd/avi/divx and 1 dvd-rw-rec, satellite /internet-tv and world wide radio access ready. 2Tb max storage capacity and little home server ready 4mb of DDR stable standard and really upgradeable memory, 2nd 3rd and 4th display ports firewire/tv/video capture card included with home theater with wii-pc/ psx3 link and usb gamepad connectors, (3d head visor set also included) "virtual fun pack", and a usb beverage cooler, pc-coffee maker usb device and software/manual, multi-functional fax-printer-scanner-copier cheap n easy cartridge with emergency refill kit included, why "X" brand company WHY?? you better contract me for your creative corporative sales department :) and you'll finally sale real good deals. (mail me only if you have any tempting 10-15 thousand$ or above offer);)

Yeah It was too large and I have not correct it (yet) but is the history of ufo manifestation and a deviated from "light" leader resuming... well there is a lot (very little indeed )of things I understand and maybe you as well Tenebrae but I prefer not to talk about how dirty and powerfull (poisonous) black magick can be... so I only talk some aspects. However, for me, over the years, I founded very reasonable and of course a matter of faith the 'fact' of a legion of saviors of worlds or mesiahs for this order of worlds in this galaxy coming from the central sun of the galaxy Sirius but not just only the physical sun, but the spiritual sun perhaps beyond the electronic manifestation of that immense sun. Our Christ is not the only one being from that star and not the only one in the universe with such grade of perfection but considering how hard is to a regular man to achive this grade (By Faith even the most powerfull Thrones of heaven who emanate oceans of life from their hands incline their forehead to the man the Master Jashua a former Christ, to become to a grade so high requires a great great effort for the being to actually complete successfully such missions of coming for this retarded humanities like this globe called Earth to be treated like a criminal and be murdered... (sacrified for M.·.nkind) Is the sacrifice of Prometheus and Hercules liberating him by order of Zeus, Adan being taked to heavens by Christ making Thy wiill of Thy Heavenly Father. Thy son of God(s) or the perfect mediator remains directedly linked to this world (Hercules helping king Atlas carrying the world) in particular chain of love and special manner is Thy Lord of all souls of this planet. (M.·.T.·.AT.·.N according to V.·.M.·. E.·.L.·.) We have a lot to learn about how this powerfull beings handle karma of the worlds just in this part of the galaxy. JOY TO THE WORLD! Thy savior comes and show to us the best of our unknown super-nature. There is a superior or heavenly hierarchy in the triumphant church with many grades...grades of perfection are beyond total holyness... a man who become a Christ is the greatest mahatma or great soul that can visit a spiritually retarded globe with a humankind. Really there's no aliens but only the ones outside this univresal community of all beings, because God is in every being and the beings who have realized the Truth, Love and Purity within their selves talk the same "Verb" of the souls that is universal. That explains in part the fact that a man of God can hear from birds or from the trees that melodic eternal voice revealing to him dangers, preventing him, a preciousl "donus dei" or faculty. Christ is the melodical voice of the Indostan, Thy Verb, who realized Thy Verb inside their self is not an "alien" anywhere anymore in this universe, is no other is one with them, with all, but still he is who he is, is a multitude and is an individual, that is the "Corpus Christi" utmost meaning. like the chatolic (relative to universality word adopted for roman church to express this quality) chant sings: "All united conforming a unique body, peregrin church of God, We are in Earth seed of other Reign!, peregrin church of God." 0:) So you see how this aparently silly dogmatic religious chant for "child spirits" of religion contains it self a wise truth of faith and also how by develating it. it makes possible the counciliation with pure reason, or pure Science. Supreme reason is the absolute to our finite relative reason and thus becomes it's guiding star, without it, reason of man points to it's analog or relative absurd conclusions. So I can't deny reason to anyone and am being reasonably right to do so... :) but denying faith truths will be formulating an absurd and calling a chimera to faith, sooo :thinking: it exist the possibility of alien life or 'a-lie' or supossed 'entities' (or spirits) for us but it is because of our finitiveness of perception and understanding of 'the real' what could made us adopt this terms in our linguistic forms, short forms to describe or denominate finite perceptions about living beings in this universe.

Andromeda's Commonwealth is a more refined view of the ideals of the old bureaucratic and militarized basements of the federation, I dunno why here does not exist a separate forum about Starship Andromeda but Captain Hunt is a more noble version of a starship captain who is more easygoing and open minded about other races in the universe, a good set of heroes, less militarized mumbo jumbo old bul*s**t more believable for a futuristic thinking. Getting back to the TNG contradictions, they gamble but money was eradicated long time ago, it has to be very boring to play cards for nuthin :) if the bets have no real monetary value. They are not too smart, they never learn not even Picard haha never regulate the force of the androids to not harm the crew and the senior staff to a human force measure with limits :D lol a malfunction can make an android to literally "hang you" with his bare hand, or worst... pitty of you if and android has getting mad and you are in his way :). That also occurs in andromeda series, everyone has panic of the force of a mad android. :p Have to see Wesley Crusher in his gray uniform (before starfleet academy) is a bit annoyin after several episodes the boy of mommy looks like a ballet dancer. a very disgusting petaQ! as klingons would say... Well there are a thousand more contradictions maybe but it is clear to me that the system of tripulated space rockets is absurd, but we have more of cardassian so we can´t have sub-terrain traffic and streets for people, and so car accidents are a big cause of tragedy and suffering around the world in this century, our guls are barbaric leaders, I guess the federation will invade and begin the dilithium wars if they could. Barbary always end destroying civilization and returning to his cave to get sleep again.

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"de gloria olivae" according to Michelle de Notredame and St. Malaquias prophecy... His glory will be short and puerile like one who put a crown of olive leaves to someone, after his dead will come Petrus Romanus (the stone that the builders lost shalll be restored again in the roman church.) just right before the anti-Pope rising, the anathema, the most apostate of all.

Well she can act freakie considering is not un unknown church and she's the wife of the boss, nobody cares they move the masses it's show time! it's tv time is money them. etc, etcetera. There is a lot of spiritism in christian sectarism, as a form of trance voodoo, or african obscure religion same effects, possesions in the worst case, and it is attibuted to the Holy Ghost, instead of Satan, cause it is America or Europe, "the civilized world" black magick is powerful enough to fool millions of people every day in the name of "Jeezas" or some demon capable of body appropiation that u could confuse with the name jesus, if your not epileptic yet, you have best chances of remaining healthy not assisting to that spiritism sects, don´t lend your body to any preachers of doom, the anti-christ preach in the name of Jesus, seek the true holy spirit throught devotion, or in the spirit of universal charity. If you feel discomfort and you feel your being manipulated into spiritism inside your local christian cult, it's time to move on and get out of there and find some healthier and safe ways of union with your god. Sectarism preachers psycologyst studied and adopted sort kind of deformed shamanism momevemets combined with music rythms and chants to produce an effect of colective inducement to hypnotic states or fascination and at last frenesi or delirium from their victisms and combined with spiritism but in behind a christianized wearing, and there u have, yes the less or the worst thing you can expect assisting to the so called punishment and cast out of demons that these people do is to be posseded or filled with negative energies or entities. With bible in hand it's just another sinagog of satan. it is just modern spiritism wearing protestant christianism or even deformed modern catholic christinism clothes. Amateur exorcism practiced by local cult leaders and also big churches leaders It is not safe nor recommended because the preacher knows nothing about how to really protect you or himself of the entities if your a suitable vacuum house, youll be your body will be house of demons. But one thing is certain, this things came from the abyss to the abyss spirits, many "vacuum houses" ("redeemed" tormented killers, people who has commited horrible crimes in the past, bad military, war veterans, gangs retired and many others, find this type of "christian" spiritism as their own place in which concerns to them in religious matters.

Thank you, certainly I should find that link of a handy rubber use when posting :D And yes you are right TFMF there's nothing truly new under the sun. Indeed is not new, as a little kid I remember an interesting and a fascinating experience to look up and see the moon, well the first times it looks so incredible, so "new" :) but then you grow and u get used to and becomes boring until one hears something about some event called total eclipse of sun :) but after that even an eclipse is not anymore a new thing for us. the Halley comet is older than my whole genealogical tree but is was something "new" to watch in the middle 80s. ::) so the axiom "nihil novum sub sole" is a quite right axiom again. Only Truth is the true "new" thing from instant to instant.but it never varies, we are who change by experiencing it in a direct way.

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science treating the study of science?? with science? biology is a modern scientific appoach treating about "life" but the science of Life itself?? are they inmortals already? who possess it really... I ask and I made silence... Don't get me wrong I see scientology as a new religious or philosophycal wave taking shape... my point is ...when I analize the word scientology I found the greek's wise paradoxia "SCIENTIA SUMA SCIENTIAS" embedded into an elaborated nonsense junction of words, or sofism...although it is reasonable to think that the perfect variety is formed with the perfect unity... but makes me ask me this question: Do they know what they re talking about? Like If I started a movement called the "biobiology" or "deathdeathology" :p So called "science" is plenty of this things, the last thing I would need is to repeat a word twice to say a nonsense, by example: to call my pet I would have to say: "come here dogdog" so dog is not the word dog anymore but you would have to say the scientology word "dogdog"- It's more like insulting twice using a same word to make it sound a nonsene with more sense, at least sounds like that to my "non infalibilis" but still not so doomed intelligence rightright?? ;) scientology?? ya-ya sure-sure! will be my answer :D ( I'm not denying that it may work for lotz of other ppl but in my present opinion, they need a to use their "dictionaryofdictionary"... but they are free to try of course , a word without meaning and not a koan? pls don't insult my "dumbness" so hard :) because, even the meaningless words are talking letter by letter of it's own nature...) "Pure Science is the antidote to absurd beliefs and disbeliefs... and so... Pure Faith is allways the antidote to materialistic science's anthems and blasphemies".- - Doc Strekge - [br]Posted on: November 15, 2007, 02:58:41 AM errata 1st line of the body of the message it must be read "Wich science??" instead of "with science"[br]Posted on: November 15, 2007, 03:03:03 AM Oops! ...talking about english spelling infalibility it's Which, rectifying....(I'ts funny how a little error can take you down from your "apotheosis" moment when writing, so am human again because of spelling :p )

My ftp did not work as I expected so now is off-line indefinitely :(

What I can tell you is this: When I was 10yo I saw a case that later will have some influence in my decision about makin my own search for spirituality... My father was going to some conferences of people of the A.A. when I was , he was just a good father he made a great decision for whole the family... but the man the leader was also an intelligent man, beloved by his followers, at that time their teachings was of love and family reuinion, with the 12 steps for abstinency, this man founded a big movement in many countries, lots of families and wives were gratefull and I as a kid, I like to go with him to some yearly main events to one of the local stadiums in my locality, that night we arrive to the stadium, all families have been told to make some sandwiches and drinks to share with, there was a march of the members (the fathers organized by the group they belonged) showing things for amuse, it was a good thing to see the good will of ppl, the weird stuff the preacher tolds about a "relative god " and "absolute god" and the things that did happen like lights visits photos, where not a thread to anyone, the man essencially was intelligent and teaching love, and no one feels threaded about because , it was A.A. and aliens together but for good, ppl was amazed, I saw wierd little lights coming from the sky and then into ballons, A man trying to capt on camera but a force keeping his camera to get down, I was there, the man givien a speach and glowing ligth around him, and after that a collection of photos as a gallery, other strange photos but this aliens looks so friendly a huge man with a strange space-suitl smile behind one of the carrousels, many others pics of photos showing little rounder and big lights in the space or right coming from the sky like hailing, let say "love was truly on the air" so these alien beings were with us" in some way, that how I felt... and that's how it happen there... there were 2000 or more persons there, many of them still remember similar events... here at that time there where not such a technology, I remember a pseudo-transformer car improvised that stands "tranforming into a robot" from one group of mechanics also members of A.A. I can't tell you if that was my closest ufo experience, or what was going on for sure... but it somehow religious and somehow A.A., their principles were fine and did work as far the man(lthe eader) thought "dont drink, love your family and this beings love us and see our mutual understandin" and share our gratefull and our common oblation to the divinity..." Two years later my father take a break from work for two months, he was trying to figure out his "Pah" (being from a traditional catholic ways, after rehabilitated, and having a closer link to his A.A colleges and friends, I enjoyed to listen to him, my faith in God and religious and general dogma got into a more deep and universal way of looking to the infinite love, so my father's one... I was proud of him, (and I am now when I remember his courage and his decision...) Things changed drastically after all "good times" the "leader" was getting to the "dark side" naming or putting himself the god-child for nativities, many stange accidents, sort kind of satanism rumors arrived... the group leaders teaching the contrary, leaving their wifes and kids in later years, smoke a lot have many women, the leader getting rich and building a great mansion and a discotheque, no more sane teachings of the divinity, no more respect to the christ, and talking about mary, the tipical dissention of "satan" was mining all the good things of the past... the leader also getting kicked his ass out of some U.S and Mexico major sedes of the movement for blasphemy...etc etcetera. We tried the protestant stuff with the so called "business man of christ" many people were caught and trapped in that little net like fishes and converted to obedient sheeps, and never could find out the exit to that breakfast and "let's talk about doom's day and of the devil talk instead of christ love" :) a mix of protestant satanism brainwash induction and pseudo-christian-spiritism and mediumnism 'cause "you must believe was the "Holy Ghost" giving you "the gift of many-thongues" when u fall in the floor like a possesed freak of hell saying a non-sese thing like ! HALlAH HALAH HALAH HALLAH! really a more terrifying thing that a laugther one... beleive me... Three days of that and we were done, forget about it! on sunday morning when it was just over and we where realesed from our confinement :) Thanks to God! for that. (that were my first solid meals on religion, I was beginning to awake my conciouss, and knowing the forms of the "evil", so am happy for not being a donkey swallowing all the salt and grass they tried to give to my mind :), I understood for the first time that if I'm gonna do my spiritual journey I must and would never allow to get trapped in wackos netz and that I allways have to chew first the whole thing before deciding what to swallow in this big world of beliefs, traps, theories, philosophies, as it seemed like a big buffete to get indigested or poisoned sometimes... if you don't pay attention about what may you eat and what you better not swallow in religious matter...) I wasn't an expert on the religious subjects but one thing was for sure to me: That thing wasn't the Holy Ghost, simply because you now holy is holy , and that wasn't a holy ghost, was more like an exorcist chapter local sect, and other that mans really beleive it they were not sincere wrong people... maybe with nice intentions but misguided... So after have being in a catholic college and being a good respectful and sometimes devoted good boy, I unexpectedly had started to explore my belief world... learning that "good" can comes from the most rare places and ppl and "evil" can be hide just behind the name of christianism and holiness with a proper speech an elegant tie and work wearing a breakfast some making you feel better with palms to your shoulder, and end with a possesion or obbsesed and turbated minds or maybe mentally ill or actual madness ( five years ago I hear of one business man with a wealthy status and wife, was the realestate office partner with my dad's and now he was so doomed and satanized and brainwasher that he was having convulsing and having brain leaking illness, he was a normal person of business to me, so far so good happy married with a espouse and childs and now even their wife doesn't support his madnes breaking "the idols" at home, he's now finished, but he never knew when to quit about it..., after 11 years now the only thing this remembers to me is the truth of the words "comercializing not just with beliefs & goods (and drugs and more...) but with souls" as St. John Apostol predicted... Now returning to the times of the alienA.A. movement after the leader did started the new "hell ways" My father was having a internal spiritual fight or dilemma and was resolved to put a end to it the sooner better... he left the movement and after confronting his belief and his duty he has no more chance to dilucidations and begin to assist to regular mass invited from one of the local catholic church priest,or course accompanied with his wife the renowed his marriage both and find their modest but way of serving the Lord as a couple helping couples with familiar problems to find love in a more understandable and safety way, they remain there until this day, am happy for them in someway... although my father never follow his "Pah" or spiritual search they like what they are doing, but definitevely that experiences did mark my path, giving me a start point and a more "universal" understanding perspective about religions and tolerance for non-earthlings beings (if they are still outhere), cause I was there... and I would be a fool if I try to deny or forget instead of extracting the meaning and understanding my religious past experiences. It is like saying: Why not can god love others like he loved other man and woman over human history?? no matter where they are, like music and math the higher love and wisdom and knowledges atract this peaceful beings but there is also the dark, but in the secret of our interior, we know love and truth prevail allways at the end.... Could it be otherwise? , I ask to my self... if my simple reason answers it could't be, something in my heart tells me "Oh no, you may but you can't lie to your self aboit it...you no that's impossible :), that is the certainity of the necessary equilibrium of the forces, as it is out-side so it is inside as the hermeticism axiom declares...time was to talk and now is time to make silence... Science says: "credo qui est absurdum" Faith replies: "credo qui absurdum non credere"

<--- (Here´s mine) The Game must continue... The Sisko wants to control the game... The Sisko is linear and could not be "The Avatar"... :p 8/10 to the calvie 'cause I listen the teachings of the prophets :) I choosed Mr Garak wearing a tuxedo, and just have to mention that I like doctor bashir enhanced intelligence but garak has a dramatic sense of humor... and his european formality...he is funny and also a more complex character... with plenty of secrets... intriguing tales, mysteries... has a dark side... etcetera. etc. Vote for the ex-Gul! f.y.i.: dr_strekge is sort kind of nickname between doctor strange & star trek universe. [br]Posted on: October 20, 2007, 01:39:42 AM msg4real I give you a 6 /10 sorry I'am not a fan of Stargate I dunno of wich series is but to me anything that looks like Stargate deserves just no more than 5/10 but I'am giving you 1 point for walking decidely to the portal... :D

Regarding to the Janeway "haters", I must confess I dislike her the first time I saw her, well I found the standard boring trek show, when I first start to see the show...(STVOY) A naggy woman giving orders with an elaborated dresshair, but after that i became to appreciate that lady captain... in the real life is not so common to find women like her (like captain janeway with character intelligence, warrior, pretty but with power, cult, etc) young reckless cadets dont want to receive orders from anyone ;) like those foolish with nog in that episode where they attack the big jem'ha'dar ship and all get killed because of the stupid "mr cool" yes sir! After we were already used to watch captain picard, seen a woman in the big chair was not confortable change... I admit I don't like extreme femenism postures but either extreme japanese maleism "don't show me your the pelvis woman" :D, maybe you don't like old people, maybe there are many gay fans of startrek out-there, and I for saying this I assure you that doesn't I want to be included or am I in a pasive way that's ridiculous too, i prefer to destroy the star-trek universe bombarding with omega bombs everywhere than becoming a "double girl with ballz", I prefer a cardassian trial than that ok? hahaha..., but maybe many fans are so young that they don't like to see death or the un-pleasant un beauty of aged ppl... but when it comes to alien races they could be completely horrible and awful and disgusting :) Even I that understand age process in a more relativity-einstein way, have to admit that everyone loves the beatiful ppl (that gay was a deception to rock fans with clear manhood vision, indeed, am fine with my non functional little male tits...that's disgusting... selling the soul like a bitch for money or fame but I understand also how degeneration equalizes even the most arrogant or skeptic people... poor manson is really begging for what only hell can give to him uncounciosly his freedom of himself one day...) I like sci-fi because it gives you some perspectives or points to start, if you actually compare the "real thing" you found it always absurd, and I refering to the realism of universe... not to materialistic science theories... or canons... but beyond... this world concept of official accepted science term... love always seeks for beauty is in love with her... can't be otherwise... the perfect contains beauty, beauty is aeternal or non corruptible or non perrishable is od-jective (ob-od-sub are different things to describe the misunderstood word "objectivity") physical beauty pass or it is subject to processes of degeneration or regeneration of the body, but ageing in time dimension??? that's a totally diferent thing... we are all condemned to death... all pass... but inmortality and resurrection are words that comes always after death :) but certainly is not for all narcisus of their selves ;) aroun there... more coffe ensign "weasley lover" ??? lol ;D so u nou what i mean... don't get confuse, I like variety but mixin all up ... that different ... I'll pass... :)

justingeistwrote: Believe me you don't want to know how I keep it cool... I'm not worried about first death or nuke war... that's nothing in comparison to other things you may found someday, I' don't like to fool myself anymore...(at least not in the same way I knew 10 years ago) In a way am I fighting for my soul in my own way... many ppl like to lie to their selves or accept for granted easy things or deals that they are too lazy to investigate because their mental lazyness... so I figured out my panorama about science , theology, religion, faith, this world, my self in some part ... but to discover at last that the puzzle I have to build is here inside me, so knowing about countless things is the tragedy of doctor Faust, imagine the tragedy of the other less wise man... The mystery of man, is not just knowing about our self or about desciphrating the whole nature... but to incarnate what man (in it's highest meaning) is... The Being is the Being and the reason of the being is to be... Am only a living shadow of who he is...but he could be me and I could be him, or in other words the most difficult part is to become the son of our celestian parents or relative microcosmical trinity... we are seeds of universe... like seeds of a tree produce a tree equal to the parent from the seeds came from... that is thy Man... so now I understand a little bit more the poor Edipus and it's tragedy... and many others, it is a philosophical paradoxia that I rather prefer to die trying to defeat death... but if I can't my last ace is giving it to others some clues, so they could prevail and succeed... is my way of defeat it or my ultimate later laugh victory... translated to concise borg with some vulcan logic B) worry is irrelevant... hell is irrelevant... hell is not irrelevant... life is not yours life is lended life is not yours we are spirit soul is equivalent to clothings for perfection fate can be modified regulations apply the cause is analogue to the effects perfection never changes the being is perfection individuality is not collective time are a cummule of memories suffering is irrelevant desires are irrelevant the desire to exist is analogue to perfection past is irrelevant your internal legion is irrelevant thinking mind is irrelevant nature is alive and re-process all this body cannot resit the radiation we will need to adapt the will of the being is order the being must be integrated with us first death is irrelevant avoid at all cost the second one assimilate all possible data to this end destroying your selves is an illogical course of action being or having "better" or "more than" othres is irrelevant mutation is inner death creation of inner new life nature is alive and re-process all this world is alive there has to be others there has to be animals for the others there has to be plants for the others there has to be minnerals for the others you must comply or you'll be destroyed or there is a brick for every cosmic criminal imperfect is analogue to perfect know your self, know your enemy fight your enemy...is not outside others reflex the enemy inside us to be or not be...

Religious forms are only shapes of the same universal religion beyond shape, ages, languages, races, colors, credos , etc. Religion means re-union what was separated again with the divine just simple as that that... There are many anti-religions derived from materialistic, skepticism, erroneous or misguided theories philosophies , dictators, tyrans, thinkers, this comes happening since the start of human history. the anti-deitity of materialism is the anti-deitity of matter or that declares non-universal spirit, God is not but matter is what is absurd obviously... is like sayin the Being is not the being, how could the being cant not be?? that's complete illogical, un-rational... So as anti-religion your "Dog" is "Dog matter" you work like a dog, you have the Dog money you buy or accumule a pile of money and when u have & have more things or money you are closer to your "Dog" "matter" to the non-sense you term so in there to nothing Atheism is anti-religion or religion disfiguration all desfigurations are anthem inded Satanism is religious deformation as shadow to the real mesures of a determinated thing or object. Anti-Christic Systems: Communism-Marxistic is anti-religious system Capitalism is also an anti-religious system Narco-capitalism is an anti-religious system Zionism is an anti-christic system Higher and well understanded common-unionism is a term for Humanism the catholic church knows it so you go and have your communion or common union but in the spirity of the Christ (man-god), so cooperation grace instead of disgrace, the lost causes... break chains liberate the oppressed thats social christianism, but is anti-power camrades anti-riches, anti-burocracy, anti-imperialism or anti-communism both different ways to control tyrians and troyans in different parts of the world... Ancient Mayan and Egypcyan Teocracy where better models for pseudo called "non-monoteist" civilizations but neither of these wise of egypt or mayans or greek ancient wise, where not necesarily poly-theistic, but only for the masses, that can not see unity without variety... being this just natural apparently... Israel is actually a name of the patron angel of the country called uppon him, Hebrews were Mosaic or with Abraham Pact and then Essenian or with the New Pact the agnus dei was the more the Essen the greatest essenian master, so of the line of Moses and David, enlighted or reppentant jewish could be also accepted as pure Mosaist and Essenian of heart after their King judge them... The Hebrews are 12 tribes, they respect the law and the prophets and the Agnus dei sacrificium but in The Spirit of Their Greatest Ancestor "Friend of Elohim" .It is better to forgive, forgive the secret enemy too... because the King of jew is Divine Mercy but Divine Justice as well... Enlighted or not mistaked israelians are mosaic and essenian of heart. they respect the Law and The major and minor Prophets teachings and also understand "the Agnus dei" sacrificium but in The Spirit of "Friend of Elohim" Mosses and Essen. Zionism persued to dead the first's christians and divides until mess up all in every where, either the company of Jesus, "no Order has to have order", no comtemplative-work life temples for men in the majority of countries, that's not allowed at least legally I wonder why??, however other evil societies of drug and crime and racism etc, and not considered as dangerous as first-christianism well understood... The older Jew Agency sends Saulus thus he is the first Christian Protestant Preacher who ever exist... but listen... He started a pseudo christian cult around the 3rd century A.C. but then go to a true fisrt-christian head-quarters caves, because their "agency" want to kill him for not doin well her job. after that and because his convertion the adultry and rewriting - later re-imprinting in the contemporary bibles remains as a thing of faith and appears just like another biblic tale nowadays, the first christians were nothing about believe but "create", two different verbs, so you begin believing but you finish creating and preparing a new born, quite deep faith things, but the confusion still remains and it shall remains because of the tyrant-cracy, in other words there is a little percent of people worried for other people leave ignorance... and there is allways agencys that doesn't like people knowing these after more that 16 centuries.... Chirstian Socialism and non exploitative or brutalizing or imperialistic social systems (Or whole humankind "communion" for progress not only external but interior moral and spiritual improvement of humanity) Social Christianism and not only comercial but in all fields and matters cooperation and better understanding would fit better in many countries of this world. you can call it social Mahometism, social Fu-hiism, social Krish-naism, Social IHVHism, Social buddhism, Social Ramaism, Social Indian Nativism but everywhere is the same but with a different shape or names, what is really important is not the shape but their principles thy Holy Spirit, Holy Son, Holy Almighthy Father, one Father of All, the universal fraternity of Man, the new earth the new sun or heavens... Ode to joy the universal verb, Joy to the world!, not just one mounth or a modern fenician pagan commercial party, that´s the spirit, that's the looking of grace of all man, the savior coming to the hearts of man and savin them by love, Joy to the world!, but celebrating every nativity of each man which brings the holy spirit, and the peace of christ to the world... Prepare him room! in every heart!, that's the way, that´s the universality of religion the unfailability of the re-councilation of faith and science in the spirit of fraternity of all man. Amen.+ Amen.+Amen.+ [br]Posted on: October 15, 2007, 05:14:19 AM This is a correction of the following paragraph: This is how it has it's original sense: Israel is actually a name of the patron angel of the country called uppon him, Hebrews were Mosaic or with Abraham Old Pact and then Essenian or with the New Pact. Essen was the true keeper of Moses teachings, The "Agnus Dei" was Jesus the Christ also the greatest essenian master, so being thus of the direct line of Abraham, Moses and David, enlighten or repentant jewish could be also accepted as Mosaist and Essenian of heart (some of them maybe only) after their King judge them... And finally I want to say I also forgot to paste a paragraph regarding the ancient history cults or so called big "polytheist" religions of the past. For example in the case of ancient Egypt, were always existed the prophetic side of Egyptian Religion, recognizing Aton-Ra or the un-manifested Almighty Father (of a comparative egyptian trinity), What I am trying to illustrate here is they were not only polytheist cults but monotheist ones also having the same principle or shapeless spirit over the centuries, but all religious shapes after centuries or thousands of years comes to their zenith, being deformed from the original principles who started it at first. the same things happens with every big religious shape, also in ancient Greek, Socrates taking the sycute poison... "Whenever and wherever tyrants and deformed religion exist, always will exist indignated reformers".- Anonymous [br]Posted on: October 15, 2007, 01:59:38 PM Another important correction to make is: A more accurate translation of the hebrew name Abraham is "Friend of AELOHIN" or as the psalm says "God is god of gods" (and goddesses) AELOHIN is the first word of bible in the ancient hebraic language, thus being it's exact translation to english.

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For races with transwarp technology and huge "city-ship" The Saurians (STVOY 3x23 Distant Origin episode) they seem quite powerfull dino-sapiens race...not aliens they are from Earth like humans. And the most powerfull tiny lethal molecule is Omega Also some nebula-beings make our humanoid heroes like mere bugs too In DS9 the most powerfull thing is the imagination of the writer that writes the whole scifi novell called "DS9" ::)

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GorunNova Wrote: Maybe but encouraging others to tolerate a not canonical point of view is a first step, think for a moment if universal thinking were in that disbelif skeptik direction, at the end everyone would be tired of it, Personally I can't imagine Stalin and Marx as the Presidents of the U.F.P. but either Uncle Sam or greedy voraceous capitalist tyrants and the ones controlling all the party and the money or comunist chinese hordes like the Dominion Jem'Hadar to impose their ideas by brutality, no religion, no piety at all, so it could be no harm making a space for the the new thinking, that has resulted of our practical learning from the mistakes of the past. Also making new fortified barriers or better jails instead of give them fields work, wife and kids somewhere the orld is bigger enough, giving a chance to the ones really wanting to start a new life. many things are wrong and maybe we can do better in this new century, one step at a time. If we really want to enter someday to the inter stellar vogaye era, we may have to start practicing understanding. By the way, but talking about other trek things, I was wondering imagine Paris Hilton decide to build a Deep Space Nine 1:1 scaled as a full Hillton Resort :thinking: :D A GOOD IDEA! as klingon would say, or Paramount made a Amusement Park About the Star Trek Universe and Andromeda as Trekkiworld :) Like the Fujifilm Park, or some casino magnate, it sounds stupid maybe crazy but , if any of these things actually occurs, I think as a Ferengi the 0.03 percent of all net profits for taking my Patent Pendient idea would be enough to sold it (=3 , (mostly the DS9 Resort ) . Also I am open to hearing of any offer or deal anyone may have about it. ;D What this means is I know we are not in the 24th Century this change of thinking is not going to be easy. but we can give it a try essaying it since now. I made 2 post, not spamming just a very common doh! when posting. but it appears that more than 2000 chars just not fit well using only 1 post. I thinks is better as already is done. :) AmnotBorg Wrote: Finally I think it is somehow related to DS9 and Star Trek, the forum says everything, I like to watch the start trek tv series, they inspire us, make us laugh too, Paris and Janeway as Iguanas and coupoling, the opposite to evoludion de-evolution, as I said of the anti-theory anti-hypothetical fictional guessing, very funny sometimes too, but Trek language is very familiar all over the world, and am using it to translate some thoughts wanted to share with other ppl I in a more familiar trekker/ie way. So stay tune because my next strike will be dealing about Inter-stellar communications, SETI, Radio Astronomy, Nebulas, and a lot more. :cyclops: and 2eyed :thinking: all are welcome. :) My Grammar is horrible hehe, but maybe and just maybe am not from the same quadrant neighborhood. and the UT i got is so cheap that it still use a fiwst gameboy case and screenlook instead of a starfleet touchy and goovie Okudagram inside&ready standard tricorder. "§ :-\ "one to beam up!" (my gutz too cadettese! , whooaa! :o u see I would hate if someday this Safety Maqui procedures for while-in-warp transports fails Lol :D )

Name: Dr. Sigmund Strekge Age: 30 Rank: Counselor Commentdant Occupation: Theologyst / Writer / Terrian Resistance Member Favorite TV Shows: Star Trek DS9, Starship Andromeda, Psych, ... I see you have a very active Forum here Admiral... :o Quote Marks: Vita regula, vita hieratica!

[glow=red,2,300]Star Fleet un-official Intelligence de-classified materials <Section 31.77> Temporal Investigations Maqui Division [/glow] Star Trekker's - Beyond body quadrant - a guide for ‘real world’ stellar trekking for the 21st century. For ‘real world’ sidereal travellers of the milky way - rev. 00179.31 alpha – Dedicated to all the Trekkers and Trekkies belivers fans and series watchers around the world... by dr. strekge <doctor_strekge@yahoo.com> 11-There are a lot of worlds like this with humanities, any planet that seems with the best telescopes a desert and inhabitable in the 3rd dimensional plane can be vastly populated in other parallel universes upper or lower to the one we currently inhabit. Human genetic genome is in the middle of two layers or different realities one is this cellular world and the other is the molecular world, both parallel realities are similar universe but analogue. to travel to mars or venus, you can go using many different vehicles or parallels embodiments each one according to a different manistation, those corses are possible to be builded from scratch or enhanced, that are the celestial corpses, let's say the fusion reaction of our internal warp core can elaborate them. The natural process when dreaming makes posibble to break the light velocity for anyone F.T.L. (faster than light physical embodiment separation speed). Begin practicing trying to sleep the body but not your attention capability, your consciousness your awareness. you may fall asleep, don't worry, try again when your tired and need some rest is better, cause the physical body requires a rest and your anti-body needs a rest too so it beams up to the next parallel universe or reality layer. our mental projections keeps us dreaming or projecting images according to our sub- conciousness state, the inner universe express itself in shapes we could understand or desciphrate, but with conciouss or regular meditation, we can avoid these and have lapsus of conciousness, the separation moment is an extasy or fusion point is warp ten, we can go everywhere but we go where we can go because of our starship state. the bodies more spiritual or more manuevarable in less-condensed layers goes faster and can go where others may not. 12-There are many commercial books or bad writers that are against all idea that goes beyond "linear time", that ideas that give us possibility to seriously study the new physics of new multi-universe parallels to this, because beyond time is the eternal or other universe that will make us question our current beliefs and concepts, remember there is a the wheel that makes immense profits for few ones, so they continue sustaining absurds and partializing science, religion, social systems; govern ways, commerce, industry technology, and politics and accomodating this thinking and even imposing it, that's the same history to every human planet that has falled back to pre-warp technology, or are barbaric, the atomic bomb is too barbaric for humanities that are ages beyond us. imagine the lords or earth's gold and wars trying to conquer the gold and make inter stellar wars, that never will be so until the public first contact the spacial effort is going to fail again and again, the non-sense space exploration or the anarchy is not well sighted for the "Gods of the Prophets". 13-A true and exact way to know what really happen, why, when and how is learn to relax the body and then learn to concentrate, because past and future "waves" also can be retrieved or read for any receptive and well prepared mind. sleep your body... that’s your ‘escape pod’ trigger, remember praying honestly is not a non-sense there are laws that allow or deny to go to that places, you are a microcosm but to enter or to open that transwarp gate there has to be a scalled link or synthony from the macrouniverse to the microuniverse. The other way is capturing past-television waves to a device like a tv-receptor, probabbly it will be the discovery of this new milenium. all theories and materialistic science dogmas as we currently know will fall into dust then. 14-The first contact is already made but before 2500 and before the collapse of the actual continents for the translation of earth axis movement, but after a 3rd world war (that sadly and needless to say always appear in ancients and modern predictions and text as inevitable) the world will be visited openly and helped by these human older brothers of human kind, let’s just say for now that their ‘prime directive’ doesn’t let them interfere with some successes that must happen before they arrive, this time not to hide from humanity but all this will be in time not so far to come. 15-They are not deformed or monsters as the yellow news and the film industry paint them on this world, the multiple ugly faces (Ferengi, Cardassian, Klingon, represent different monsters or inner values or anti-values or psychological mistaken or well focused energies principles that are present in these more advanced humanities in a full or semi-full developed state, they are devotedly and peacefully ruled by the same ‘universal law’ that applies for all humankinds in this galaxy and in the unverse according to their own nature or inner development. they are plenty of science-faith. they walk within the “the gods of the prophets designs”. 16-For more about real star trekking in the 20-21 centuries on planet earth, read about jorge adamski, his books and works, “I was in venus” another good book of a true normal guy that doesn’t want to make a fortune from what happen to him, but tell their story for the good of whole humankind, and madame blavatsky Novel of Jani people of mystery, study the mysteries of the ancient cultures, like the hinayana buddhism, the disappearance of mayan temples and people, the inter-dimensional gate of triangle of the bermudes, the old lamaic history, and many other cultures, and amazin things, the world is plenty of marvels and beings that we can´t see just using our three- dimensional senses, and go to the remote past where this modern earth history has no record, the lost continents, the origins of the humanity are certainly too ancient. the “god’s of the prophets” bring this world from the upper to the lower as the most wise on earth said once “As above, so below”. nothing comes from nothing it was already before you could be able to see the sun with your eyes or imagined the concept or the idea or your invention, somethings of this age have also emerged from the lower dimensions and grabbed to this reality too wich is the reverse process of the highly developed humanities. 17-There is a common pattern in all this universal puzzle, the same science-faith principles but maybe in different shapes makes possible to any humanity that comes to the plain of existence the guessing of the realism of stellar voyages: As you have seen, is the opposite to the approach of current materialistic sciece spacial efforts which has much more sense than our trek fictional universe, but shadow are telling us of a light, The un-continuous movement would be the death for the universe, science can´t be separeted from faith, this universe shall be until the “gods of the prophets” close their eyes and the night after a cosmic day begins again. The unfamous “Big- Bang” theory is more Bang- Big, the analogue. many times the same reverse ideas or conceptions give us the proper anti-thesis but the two of them give us a more certainty to finally reach the synthesis, the scientific world thinks has reason to think that way, like galileo versus the un-understood dogma inflections mysteries or the behind poetry wisdom they wer up to. both were reasonable or of faith in their respective ways but one was for faith and the other for science, the emanation and reabsorbing of life manifestation or condensations of this unique common element of all things, let’s call it “unsighted light” is capable of travel by itself and divide or reproduce and continue moving, and is not well known why this things occur and less well understood for today science, also is magnetism and electricity but we now are able to use them in certain useful or destructive ways. 18-Robots of these advanced humanities are the Roswell they caught, the military and the actual governments are seen for these intelligent beings like they were mere cannibals always greedy of land and gold and the flesh of man or at least that reflex this modern civilization nowadays. Of course they shall not want casinos drugs and porn and alcohol and nuclear bombs on their planets, neither the political tyrants that promote such absurd ways as freedom, they are not like us, they are like we could become, and the selfishness and proud of the intellectual minds of this age is blinding them, full of pretension, these terrestrials don’t believe in other humanoid race better than they are. They this people of this higher developed humanities really have piety for our internal state, they are full of mercy for everyone of us and one day they will come and will teach us too, and they will show us, and they will take us to their home worlds, not all but the enough to safe or earth's humanity, but it is has been possible always to travel and meet with other beings but this living systems and education have forgotten completely the anti-body anti-matter nature of man, it's second nature. However if we clean up our selves from inner slavery of mind and spirit and fears. fear is the ‘my self’ mihi-ego in latin, mihi-ego, the word miedo (meh-eh-do) (as in do-minion) from spanish is a more accurate translation, mihi-ego produce wars and suffering. it wants always to be someone to be great, recognized, but the being of our selves just wants to be, the mystery of humanoid life and dead is like we have to cease to exist in this way to born in a new way, we may have to die, but their son or “proto light" prolongation would be like the prophets in the way of not only linear time beings or always ruled in this manner by 4th dimensional and third dimensional barriers as occurs to us as being mortals, this being is us but also a father-mother principle that is really us and fulfil us as sons of this universe and beyond. We have to erradicate the anti-values from selfishness and greed, from hate and wrath. these can't be erradicated from our nature, faithscience it's not imposibble to transform or repolarize pasive energies into active or constructive ones. We don’t need new dogmas but real understanding and cooperation, not competence, that’s not the most intelligent way to proceed for humankind inhabited worlds. So this type of super- humanities, have already the greatest and paradisiacal federation you could possible imagine but it’s like the link for the changelings if you’re not willing to be a true changeling of your animal nature if you don’t transform your self and want to enter to kingdom of man (heavens in your sacred books) you might fight it all you want, but the universal laws are not subject to be changed because of a party of tyrants or a whole word of people that wants spacial travel in their own fashioned way, so you can figure out now why biblic Giant Nimrod never reached heaven with their Arrow from the top of the tower he builds, and why this modern Spacial Nimrod will not go anywhere but to fail, using this absurd approach, the universal laws apply to all the worlds and humanities, some of them can’t achieve that change or mutation so soon, no one with interior seeds of war or aggressively or hate to others can go or stay living in that worlds for longer periods unless in special cases when they help some people of the worlds they visit, who is invited to visit, there is an intelligent natural selection in the macro- cosmic nature that puts livings beings together in worlds according to similar levels of interior development. You can believe or you can deny it but this guide is an insight the ancient wisdom ways to meet "the prophets or messengers" and their gods or deitity and semi-deitities or angels as called in sacred earth books, and to go to the celestial temple, because there is a celestial temple in your world the earth but to find it you have to travel to the celestial temple, the one within your selves. Now re-build your own body-ship and be free and conquer the truth travelling form the inner universe to the outer one... 19-To meditate just...”Do the useless...” get into a middle-state of consciousness that’s all, relax your face then your body muscles at first, repeat it if necessary, a cold water shower before and some music can enhance or improve your body to meso planetary or sidereal trek, it's a process, yes you can fly, is not just dreaming just jump high don’t fear the sensation, at any unpleasant sensation you are beamed up always to your body to your bed where you began your body- spiritual stellar voyage, molecular reality corpse is analog to this reality no gravity but levitate law so you fly easily, this inner universe relative to an inner language of symbols that have their counterparts to the macro-universe, or to other realities you also live, Go where you have not gone before every night, explore in deep this universe, learn to concentrate, using a candle a clock sound, quite polyphonic or orchestral music (the better way to find and watch inside your "orb of thinking" or to travel at mental universe is not to think at all to go to next level... blankness of mind, let if flow and close the "worm hole" and then your unique thinking of that moment becomes the inquire of your meditation, there is mind and beyond mind is “tality” mentality is a compoust word mind-”tality”) Happy stellar voyages for everyone reading this guide!!!.

[glow=red,2,300]Star Fleet un-official Intelligence de-classified materials <Section 31.77> Temporal Investigations Maqui Division [/glow] Star Trekker's - Beyond body quadrant - a guide for ‘real world’ stellar trekking for the 21st century. [pre]For ‘real world’ sidereal travellers of the milky way - rev. 00179.31 alpha – Dedicated to all the Trekkers and Trekkies belivers fans and series watchers around the world... by dr. strekge <doctor_strekge@yahoo.com> Welcome this guide will provide readers with a general insight about practical 'real life' interstellar travelling. This guide is intended for educational purposes only, and is recommended for persons passionate with exploring and investigating more about their selves, for discovering outside, what is already inside of all of us, and may not be suitable for persons totally sceptic or enclosed in the old ways of thinking about science and faith (earth 20 century and prior). Other people already have done it and have gone where others may not by the present time, so read and walk with the Gods of the Prophets! To actually begin to understand how to travel to the distant parts of this multi parallel universe of universes you have to through out your dusty box of absurd, wacky, concepts, mental supositions, theories, hypothesis, etcetera. So the first step is: keep an open receptive mind listen the words don’t merely interpretating or re-translating to your common accepted intellectual ways immediately, do not try to fight it for a while, let it flow, "search answers from the inside of you", another advise is don’t try to build a ‘babel’s tower’ or new jargon from this words, keep it clean and simple for everybody. 2-investigate real facts over the history, investigate not just what official science has to say or has said already, go further, investigate deeply go beyond traditional scientific dogmas and common deadend traps. 3-Allways be aware that there are lot of people that don’t want to give up their fortunes or there secrets, there are a lot of commercial crap, don’t get webbed, Don’t serve like a "drone" to your local ufo leader because he wrote a book, you will find lots of nice commercial or best seller books on every subject: fiction, non-fiction, officially accepted science, not-yet accepted or not yet completely understood science, but that doesn’t mean they are telling the story of what really happened, or they possess the whole science of the universe, keep looking don’t get webbed. 4-The older the sources the closest you shall be to the origin of the things you want to know, the answer, it takes time sometimes, so be patient to figure out the puzzle, there are theories that reversed sometimes have much sense than you could think of, or gives you the necessary anti-thesis but a third element is extracted from that two different aspects, it´s called synthesys. remember maybe they aren’t totally absurd but just don't get your mind trapped with the deny or affirmation, there is a knowledge or relative certainity that may be extracted so you may find the certainty of the faith-science and viceversa. 5-Where official science can’t reach, faith has already fulfilled. The Television invention or wave and image broadcasting and transmission and praying, both; no matter how far the distance is, share a common principle, one is science of this age the other is the science-faith of future (one was knew at the ancient times), one is beyond what official science can handle to fit in their essay tube and there is the official accepted religion, that also does a well job like his counterpart official science in terms concerning to it, but, "faithscience" its has been all over the universe always, so because we don’t understand completely how it works now, that is not enough to deny its possibility or to affirme its impossibility so that’s why we say is part of "faith", Faith is analogue as antimatter or spirit or anti-body is to matter or body, the both are matter or different mind condensation states, the both are condensations of mind or light subderivations, the both have its energetic counterparts but each one has a different charge, but the both are part of one same thing, just don’t get trap in ambiguous terms that are telling that are much a conjuctiong or link between them, some kind of relation, physchological and physiological as the whole body could not be matter without a energy base corpse that animates the matter or it's necessary counterpart; let’s call it the whole of science-faith or whole of faith-science. 6-Where the scientific method lacks, the cabalistic scientific method succeeds, one use three-dimensional science approach, the other use the faith or necessary certainity approach, one is for the intellect, the other super exceeds intellectual capability of conceptualization; the second is a way of getting knowledge that is beyond concepts or images, is beyond shape or shapeless, so mind can’t figure it out, and falls in silence at last. 7-To travel large distances and even small cosmic or sidereal distances outside or inside any planetary mole, a person doesn’t need any starship at all. The entire body is a completely capable vehicle to achieve that, not just the tri- dimensional counterpart that let us manifestate in this form in this world. As in Ds9 but analogue, all orbs of the prophets are external or went sent outside but in our case are in the interior, the inside universe inside of us. We have to find them and consult them one by one, your self is the greatest book about stellar travelling never ever wrote, this orbs own-being deparmets shows you want you want to know, they are part of all of you already. Astra in latin means star, astral travel is just stellar travelling or travelling in molecular corpse in a molecular parallel reality to this three-dimensional one: Time is the forth dimension or axis. physics of 4th dimension universe are analogue to three-dimensional physics, everybody that can fall asleep can do astral or oneself, one person space voyage travelling. dreaming uncounciosly is like auto-pilot feature on a vessel, but is limited by a hypnotic forcefield that manteins us mostly un-aware, meditation helps to awake and enhace our capabilities to fight that forcefield. Stellar voyages beyond physical body is the beginning for the serious traveller, in other words we can't not go where we haven't go before inside our micro-universe or proto-universe; death is the separation of the three-dimensional embodiment. and the re-enconter and awakeing to that second nature that all we have but we forget because of the fascination with this tri-dimensional perception of reality. 8-To travel beyond our solar system of Sirius is needed a “sidereal traveller’s” license or permission to put it in those more familiar words. to travel far away of this solar system of Ors is needed another permission, to travel within the Ors solar system sun, there is also needed the permission of the "gods of the prophets" to say it so. 9-It is possible for any person to travel in space by breaking the F.T.L. barrier. 10-Stellar ships are given to persons in this world like the spiritual guides or of your world, the tibetan lamas for example and in ancient times where given to the very wise people mayan civilizators, same on Ancient Egypt, that same occur to other great ancient civilizations, These "emissaries" bring with them his higher love and counciousness teachings to this world before the submersion of the old continents, these humans in all the sense of the word, have “granted access” to intergalactic ships, to explore the universe and also to meet their humankind brothers planets in this galaxy. The real kingdom of man is the human kingdom. tyrants and primitive war- confabulators barbarians will never be candidates for star ships, "The gods of the Prophets" would never allow such absurd; they know quite well what they do and why. [/pre]