Fenriswolf Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Perzactly wargames, the idea of big hulking metal arms and legs does not appeal to me *grin* But the idea of small non-invasive tiny machines does, which is why I like the nanogenes from the new Dr. Who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer101 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 i want to replace myself part by part til im no longer human but human inside. Forever i will live forever. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negger Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 biomods!! I think you can achieve more on the genetic level than on the ehh... physical/technical level...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Fenriswolf: don't you think it'd be wiser to first maximize the genetic/organic levels? I'm fairly sure it's possible to expand greatly on many areas.. for an instance; eagles have better sight than we do (probably something comparable to the elves of fantasy) which means it should also be possible for us to bio-engineer that, perhaps even better than theirs. I'll stick to my previous post about first unlocking the organic potential as far as that goes.. durability, resistances, all kinds of things and when that "ends" we could turn to artificial enhancement to enhance the enhanced. Again, I believe the true FIRST STEP is to make people enhance their mental capacity and awareness... GROW DAMMIT! :) The reasons for this should be pretty obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I say, use ALL possibilities, biomod AND cybernetic... don't limit yourself ^_^... but I already said this ^^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Again' date=' I believe the true FIRST STEP is to make people enhance their mental capacity and awareness... GROW DAMMIT! :) The reasons for this should be pretty obvious[/quote'] Once we humans on Earth, figure out how we can get closer to using 100% of our brain capacity, then we will be on the right track... and as far as I can tell, nothing else added, will be neccessary. Know what I mean and am referring to, Andreas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Of course I do, Lee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 *touches my skull* Nope... not enough in use. Still feels the same :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrasia Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Nanomachines. They may not be able to modify your DNA, but they can supply your body with the necessary chemicals, and other substances to not only improve you physically and mentally, but to take care of your body medically in all situations. Nanomachines also work together in a unified way, as well as being able to work fast, thus Regeneration is a likely possibility. If each nanobot is supplied with a sort of nano-replication system, they could also provide oxygen even in the vacum of space. You'd be effectively immortal, unless your entire body got destroyed, or the damage caused was so big and fatal that you died instantly. Also with Nanobots, they can continually upgrade your body, either mechanically or biologically. Since they're capable of learning, they'd probably keep evolving and working out faster more efficient ways of repairing damage, and new and different ways of improving your body to make you better. If you want, you could provide a way to update their code too, so you could modify the way they evolve or work and supply various different ways in which to update them (if you wanted). With nanobots you could probably integrate mechanical or technological parts into you too, since they can work on any kind of substance you could want (Biological/Metallic/Chemical, etc). You could also take it out about as easily as you integrated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Fenriswolf: don't you think it'd be wiser to first maximize the genetic/organic levels? I'm fairly sure it's possible to expand greatly on many areas.. for an instance; eagles have better sight than we do (probably something comparable to the elves of fantasy) which means it should also be possible for us to bio-engineer that, perhaps even better than theirs. I'll stick to my previous post about first unlocking the organic potential as far as that goes.. durability, resistances, all kinds of things and when that "ends" we could turn to artificial enhancement to enhance the enhanced. Again, I believe the true FIRST STEP is to make people enhance their mental capacity and awareness... GROW DAMMIT! :) The reasons for this should be pretty obvious There will always people that want everything, in a second and before they have a chance to learn to control it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 "As our intelligence evolves, our stupidity evolves to keep pace." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 BorisP was a pure example of this, and I can say that truthfully with no malice at all. I still say I'd rather go the nano-biomod route than full on metalwear though, there's something worrying about putting all that machine in your body. The more metal you put in, the more flesh you lose so...do you keep your humanity or do you turn into something machine-like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 I don't know about that... humanity is more of a state of mind than a state of being. You cease to be human when you cease to think human ^^... and that's a deliberate choice, not a function of the amount of metal in your body. ... unless some of that metal is in your brain, of course. Tamper with THAT, and all bets are off, regardless of whether the tampering is cybernetic or genetic... :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriswolf Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 That's my point, made of course without making it. When is too-much enough? There are always going to be exceptions to any rule, especially in the case of something as invasive as Cyberwear. Do people with mental problems bolting on metal arms and legs start to see the world differently, would they go on a power trip after being 80% metal. Heh, too much William Gibson and toooooo much Cyberpunk 2020 for me I think. As for the brain, that's the problem, if they develop a more efficient Cybernetic brain - do we retain that Humanity or do we loose ourselves to the steel machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 I don't know about that... humanity is more of a state of mind than a state of being. You cease to be human when you cease to think human ^^... and that's a deliberate choice, not a function of the amount of metal in your body. ... unless some of that metal is in your brain, of course. Tamper with THAT, and all bets are off, regardless of whether the tampering is cybernetic or genetic... :thinking: Remember though that THAT state of mind comes to be from what we currently are, face, learn, grow etc. obviously with another set of parameters what we are, and why change as well. This does not necessarily mean losing humanity and such but I still think what I'm pointing at is valid. And I'm still for biomod FIRST and machinemod later :) Thulsa Doom in Conan on the riddle of Crom: "Steel is strong but flesh is stronger!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrasia Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 *Wonders if anyone saw my post* Nanomachines are far more capable than any sci-fi or film has ever portrayed them. Take the replicators on SG-1 for instance. They could replicate with what material was around them, they could transform into ships, and probably buildings. Really, the replicators is more like a larger form of the nanomachine in almost every way. Except nano-machines are better because they can also manipulate everything down to the atomic level, and move freely inside our bloodstream. Both the borg nanomachines in Star Trek, and the replicators in SG-1, are just 'examples' of a very 'limited' form of Nanotechnology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineer101 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 biomachinery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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