theaveng Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'm watching the Outer Limits episode where Milano gets topless... her breasts look un-naturally firm. The last time I saw her she looked, um, flatter. It was too dark to see if she had any scars. Still, it's annoying when women look un-natural & fake. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'm just curious...wtf does her possible implants have to do with sci-fi??? Does it always have to come down to this? You know what would be cool? Actually treating women as equals and not sex objects. c4 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Agreed... that's a rather pointless question, smacking of objectification ;p... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I'm just curious...wtf does her possible implants have to do with sci-fi??? If they are implants, and are silicone, that's one thing. If they are duridium, transported in via medical transporter technique by a holodoctor, that'd be sci-fi, right? At least he asked about Outer Limits, rather than Who's the Boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I'm just curious...wtf does her possible implants have to do with sci-fi??? Does it always have to come down to this? You know what would be cool? Actually treating women as equals and not sex objects. c4 :( Maybe he thought they were alien implants. I'm sure she felt demeaned and objectified in her Playboy and Penthouse pictorials also. She is a woman who has willingly based her career on being a sex object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Was that by any chance this video, from the torrent I uploaded a while ago? The Outer Limits - The New Series - Sex and Science Fiction - 1 - Caught in the Act.avi I can't recall for sure anymore, but I think Milano, had some assistance in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I'm just curious...wtf does her possible implants have to do with sci-fi??? Does it always have to come down to this? You know what would be cool? Actually treating women as equals and not sex objects. c4 :( Maybe he thought they were alien implants. I'm sure she felt demeaned and objectified in her Playboy and Penthouse pictorials also. She is a woman who has willingly based her career on being a sex object. That's HER decision and business. I was addressing the creator of this thread and questioning his need to degrade women. As for her career...she prolly wouldn't have one if she didn't debase herself a bit. Hollywood is controlled by men and we know what it takes some women to make it there. It's a sad fact of life. We don't have to make it worse by chiming in as well (IMHO). c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Perhaps you are being a little hypersensitive? This is no different than speculating about William Shatner's hairline and whether he uses a hairpiece to make himself appear more youthful and virile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Perhaps you are being a little hypersensitive? I don't believe so. This is no different than speculating about William Shatner's hairline and whether he uses a hairpiece to make himself appear more youthful and virile. If you can't see the difference for yourself I doubt if I can help you. Maybe if you were a woman you'd see things a bit differently??? c4 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Perhaps, though I doubt it. Neither does my girlfriend nor my sister, both of whom I had asked concerning this to get the female perspective that I may have been missing, as you had pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Does it always have to come down to this? You know what would be cool? Actually treating women as equals and not sex objects. Does it always have to come down to this? You know what would be cool? Actually treating men as *equals* and not penises with legs. I can say, "You are beautiful" without thinking of sex. Admiration of the beauty God created & intercourse are NOT the same thing. Just because I think Alyssa is a beauty, and have always thought so ever since we were both teenagers, does not imply anything else. I'm tired of women assuming I'm just after one thing. I'm a HUMAN BEING, not a penis. troy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Maybe it was just a push up bra? And if they are fakes, who cares? I'm just gonna let this thread send it's self to dev/null/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveng Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Bra??? She was naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beawulf Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 maybe there were some hidden wires then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psheldrake1 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Perhaps you are being a little hypersensitive? This is no different than speculating about William Shatner's hairline and whether he uses a hairpiece to make himself appear more youthful and virile. I stole William Shatners hairpiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beawulf Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I thought it was just a tribble that got stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 Women have seen me as a sex object for years now, and I'm really starting to tire from it all... Oooohhhh the crosses I must bear...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 That's HER decision and business. I was addressing the creator of this thread and questioning his need to degrade women. As for her career...she prolly wouldn't have one if she didn't debase herself a bit. Hollywood is controlled by men and we know what it takes some women to make it there. It's a sad fact of life. We don't have to make it worse by chiming in as well (IMHO). c4 :thinking: If Alyssa Milano enhances her chest to make her a more saleable property to studios, who hire her to sell tickets/videos to us, males, who'd like to see her with a larger chest, it is absolutely 100% our business, too. When I was younger and more impressionable I watched the movie "Embrace of the Vampire", actually made a trip to the video store to rent it, because I heard she got topless and kissed another woman in it. She was, she did, and I was pleased and happy to have spent my money that way. Now, it all depends on your moral stance, doesn't it? Prostitution is legal in many countries, and even legal in Nevada, here in the United States of Sexual Repression. If a woman can sell her sexual favours to a man, why can't Alyssa Milano make an investment in her future with a little enhancement, solidified with some PR from her film company touting her as a sex object? Answer: they can if they want. And by the same toke that we shouldn't stop people expressing their same-sex preferences, or desires to change their sexual appearance outwardly through surgery to the opposite sex, why shouldn't we allow Milano to change her same-sex measurements through surgery? And, if she does enhance herself, why shouldn't we ask ourselves, "Did I jsut see an enhanced Milano?" If you're choosing a vampire movie to watch, and you can rent "Lost Boys" with a slim, sexy Jamie Gertz, or "Embrace of the Vampire" with a naked Milano, and you pick Milano because she gets naked, and you've heaerd she's enhanced-naked... isn't that economics and a business model in action? If Milano enhances her appearance, or benefits in her career from the mere rumour of enhancement, is that any less her own choice than sex-alteration? No. And, if she's a public figure who's career is made and based on her looks, it is absolutely, totally and completely a relevant topic to discuss in the forums of her potential sci-fi fans. Many here will note my dislike of theaveng's spamming, but he's got a point, here. As for women... it's like women's shoes, a discussion I go through with my wife and two daughters all the time: women's shoes are uncomfortable to wear? Men's aren't. Refuse to buy the uncomfortable shoes and the companies will make comfortable ones. If you refuse to alter your appearances, studios will make do with what you present them. General, I envy you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foil Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 GeneralLee, I'm their for you buddy...or, ah, tagging close behind at least. StevenofNine, I agree and disagree with some of what you stated up there and since agreeing is really no fun at all I'll stick to the one point that really struck me as something I disagree with. Agreed? Its the point on stop wearing them and the producers will just accept it. I don't believe that the actresses actually have any control in the matter. The control is held by Hollywood and we fuel the demand. I remember a case where an actress was told to thin down or loose her role on Ellie McBeal. This was typical of this producer and the many shows he did. The actress refused if I recall correctly. It may be true as in your case above where the woman is fueling the demand but not in this case where its another group other than the actresses that are doing the demanding. Congratulations. I do beleive this thread just graduated to the mirror universe. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Wow Steven, nice post there. Thanks for taking the time to write all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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