Rubus Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hmm, what do you think? Could a Changeling be assimilated by the Borg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Only if it has a genetic structure that the Borg can modify... also, their liquid, amorphous form would be VERY badly suited to having electronic bits floating about within them... I'd say their physiology would simply be too different for the Borg to properly assimilate unless part of the assimilation process 'locked' them into place so that all those Borg parts could be anchored... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Resistance is Futile. You will be Assimilated. That includes you gooey guys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellion Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well im sure those 1337 nanoprobes would come up with something. :) and just to be n00bish, what is a changeling exactly? :o Im thinking that Constable guy in DS9 Or what are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 yes he is one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I'm unsure the morphogenic nature of a shapeshifter would be entirely suited to assimilation. I'd imagine they could just 'eject' the nanoprobes from their body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The borg have had difficulties with advanced biological lifeforms before, so I imagine that they would have problems with changelings too. As someone already said, the constantly changing nature of the changelings physiology would probably cause some problems for borg nanoprobes and implants. It's possible that injecting nanoprobes into changelings when they are in their liquid state would hurt them in some way, but I doubt that they would be fully assimilated. Nanoprobes are constant, changelings are not. So the borg technology couldn't "follow" the changlings into their new shapes. Following that line of reason, and the borg are somehow able to assimilate a changeling, it is possible that the changeling is somehow locked into the shape it was in when it was assimilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 It's the kind of question that is probably most dependent on that ever fluctating universal constant, plot... My opinion is that a changeling probably would be vulnerable in it's liquid state but might be able to eject the nanobots by changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 It's the kind of question that is probably most dependent on that ever fluctating universal constant' date=' plot...[/quote'] As opposed to every other question that is brought up here you mean? Like the personality and mental capacities of fictional characters and such? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Maybe - the Changlings were almost destroyed by the virus Section 31 employed so it's possible they could be assimilated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 That's a valid point Exterus but things like personalities tend to be more set in stone - but obviously given the fact that every captain - except Kirk, who was pretty much always a lecherous braggart - has had a few episodes of totally out of character behaviour... well. The virus is a good point because, at a fundamental level, viruses are just biological nanobots... although the modus operandi of the two is clearly fundamentally different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjnave Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 The Borg would figure something out... but before it happened the Dominion (pre-war) would wipe them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Although we don't know how effective the Changelings immune system is. In Enterprise - Phlox's immune system was able to hold off the nano probes for a while untill they could adapt - the changelings might have a much stronger immune system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 That's a valid point Exterus but things like personalities tend to be more set in stone - but obviously given the fact that every captain - except Kirk' date=' who was pretty much always a lecherous braggart - has had a few episodes of totally out of character behaviour... well.[/quote'] I believe you pretty much just confirmed my original assertation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Ignoring the vagaries of plot device and writer... Founders/Changelings don't have any discrete organs in their natural state. No brain to be interfaced with and assimilated into the collective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 That wouldn't mean that the Founder's body couldn't be totally assimilated though. It just means that it might not function as an actual drone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 If it's not a drone, it's not assimilated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 What is it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 A Borg failure, just like with species 8472. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 If all the cells of a founder were assimilated then it wouldn't be anything like species 8472 - except insofar as the fact they didn't become drones. Granted, a puddle of assimilated Founder cells may not be the most useful thing ever but who knows, give it time. Maybe it could become a ripoff of human form replicators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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