skibumchris Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Hey! I was wondering if any of you know where the Borg came from (in trek world), who was species 001 or what ever its called and how did they become borg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 uhmm one theory is that Borg where created by Vger. You can go to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Ah, the topic that has been seen a thousand threads... Ironically because the search function of the forum is so horrible, I suppose if something isn't on the first couple of pages, a new comer can't be blamed. There is no official explanation of how the Borg came to be and the V'Ger theory is at best... improbable. Given the time, nature of the planet described etc. etc. Basically, if you're looking for a canon answer to your question - there isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 The borg were just a normal Human like species who found this technology and used it on themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 The Borg are a virus. :stare: wait... they made another movie based on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 The borg were just a normal Human like species who found this technology and used it on themselves Isn't this the way Voyager (series) described it at one point? That they were a humanoid race, who eventually developed cybernetic technology that intergrated partially with biological organisms? If I remember correctly, they obviously didn't go into detail of who, how and when but they did say at one point, they simply were overtaken by their own creation(s) and became the building blocks that are the Borg. Not to mention Species 001 seems rather, odd. There are thousands of known species in the galaxy. Unless the Borg have only encountered up to 999 of them, or started labeling them 001a then shouldn't their original species have been 0001 or even "higher"? (00001 for example) I wish if they ever did a new series (rumors of current aside) it should be all Borg. Like the Feds launch an offensive finally into Borg space, we learn their origins, all their real inter societal/technological secrets etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 unfortunatly the borg are the dreaed outcome of the dreaeded 'blue screen'!!! really that would be a good idea ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah - this is where i got my theory from but Voyager never really went into detail about this And as for a Borg series - hmmm... not sure - they might just do what they did in Voyager and ruin the Borg even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibumchris Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 how did voyager ruin the borg? i liked those episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyperion Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I think it was that the Borg became less of a threat and more minor annoyance Examples: Season 3 they were crapping themselves that the Borg were anywhere possibly close Season 7 they were planning full frontal attacks like they were nothing I did enjoy the episodes too mind. They did the same thing to Species 8472. On Scorpion they were the Borg killing muthas you wouldn't want to mess with and then they got 'weakened' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Na - the Borg eps from seasons 1-4 were fine (though i think they were only in season 3 and 4) But after that - they used the Borg to much and they made them look really bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Before Scorpion there wasn't really anything about the Borg except for the build up "Oh no! THE BORG ARE ABOUT!" type stuff. Voyager did a great job of really spoiling the Borg after that though. I remember hearing about the Borg kids... and I thought "No, not even VOYAGER could sink that low." It's pretty hilarious that in season 2 - dreadnaught, Voyager couldn't even manage to destroy a glorified photon torpedo but a few seasons later somehow they're having run ins with the Borg more often than I'm down to the off-license and doing a whole lot better than my wallet. Lame. You'd really think that after the number of times people have beamed on board cubes and frakked them up, that they'd actually do something... like stop people transporting onto their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symok Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Voyager did a great job of really spoiling the Borg after that though. I remember hearing about the Borg kids... and I thought "No' date=' not even VOYAGER could sink that low."[/quote'] When the Borg first appeared in TNG the Enterprise crew found a child in a maturation chamber on board the cube, so there is precedent for the children to exist like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Sure but they didn't become an integral part of the show, did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jounin Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 It would be friggin awesome if we got a good answer to that. Maybe when they make a new series it will come up in an episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Sure but they didn't become an integral part of the show' date=' did they?[/quote'] The Borg children portrayed on Voyager were NOT "an integral part of the show" either. They took up a few EPs then left the ship. Fini. End. Geez, quit blaming Voyager for everything wrong with Star Trek. Oh, wait...I did recently hear that Voyager caused WWII! Wonder if there's any truth to that? c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 how did voyager ruin the borg? i liked those episodes. In TNG the borg where protrayed as a beast. They had only one purpose, assimilate. There was no comprimise, they knew no other words than "you will be assimilated, resitace is futile" In VOY the borg had a face, Janeway made an alliance with them, they where easy to avoid, and yes, they where still a powerful foe, but having 7/9 on the show have the borg a littel color. And what ruined it was that most ppl liked the blackness of the borg. They where literaly "Perfection", the perfect enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Sure but they didn't become an integral part of the show' date=' did they?[/quote'] The Borg children portrayed on Voyager were NOT "an integral part of the show" either. They took up a few EPs then left the ship. Fini. End. Geez, quit blaming Voyager for everything wrong with Star Trek. Oh, wait...I did recently hear that Voyager caused WWII! Wonder if there's any truth to that? c4 :thinking: hey, I am with you. I have been converted. Before I hated VOY, but now that I re-watch it, it seems better than I first remebered. yes, there are some flaws in it, but it is far from being the worst show. It is better than TOS and ENT on my list. and I have heard a lot of theory to the orgins of WWII, I even heard some one say that GWB started it :thinking: buy yea, VOY=cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 The Borg children portrayed on Voyager were NOT "an integral part of the show" either. They took up a few EPs then left the ship. Fini. End. Geez, quit blaming Voyager for everything wrong with Star Trek. Just the IDEA of having a bunch of Borg kids running around for one episode was bad enough but then to keep them around. They weren't integral to the show but they got a fair amount of screen time during their time on Voyager. The fact that they weren't blown up was just an indication of how desperate B&B were becoming to fill the 42 minutes. And if you want to know the real reason I hate Voyager so much - it's because it killed my parents, ok?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 And if you want to know the real reason I hate Voyager so much - it's because it killed my parents' date=' ok?![/quote'] I sure hope you're kidding...that's not funny. :( If true I'm very sorry to hear that. What happened? Did they meet Nelix? c4 B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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