TFMF Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 In the DS9 Episode 'Jem Haddar' (Season 2 finale) The Vorta in it had a special ability - Telekinesis (I think) - she was able to through people onto the ground with her mind and was able to deactivate that forcefield (although that could have been a set up) What ever happened to this ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Probably just dropped and completely ignored by the writers in future episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Sounds about right. Telekinesis didn't really fit with the later portrayl of the Vorta as manipulators and diplomats. That Vorta was either faking or unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted October 12, 2006 Author Share Posted October 12, 2006 On so many occasions a good telekinetic blast could have been the turning point in the war. I mean an example i can think of is in the last episode - Weyoun could have put up a bit of resistance against Kira and her gang if he'd had some way of defending himself. But yeah Eris seemed to be an exception. On some websites i've read they have said she was specially trained for this power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mrthumps Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 On so many occasions a good telekinetic blast could have been the turning point in the war. I mean an example i can think of is in the last episode - Weyoun could have put up a bit of resistance against Kira and her gang if he'd had some way of defending himself. But yeah Eris seemed to be an exception. On some websites i've read they have said she was specially trained for this power. That could make sense since she wasn't really seen again and there wasn't any clones of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Logically though - and as we know the Vorta were basically uplifted to sentience by the Founders - they could probably reproduce these results in others. It would probably be pretty helpful and such. Especially with those Vorta that got captured... although, they didn't activate their suicide implants. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted October 13, 2006 Author Share Posted October 13, 2006 Actually the Vorta that did get captured did say he should have commited suicide but chose not to (In which case he got to spend the rest of his days comfortably in Starfleet prison) I'm not sure how the Founders would be able to modify Vorta so that they'd have the power to throw people onto the ground with their minds :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Given the fact they took the Vorta from being simple tree dwellers to a fully sentient race, I'd say that telekinetic powers wouldn't really have been that much more to do. And yes, that Vorta didn't commit suicide... which seems rather petulant. Ah well, the Jem'Hadar went rogue several times too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Actually the Vorta that did get captured did say he should have commited suicide but chose not to (In which case he got to spend the rest of his days comfortably in Starfleet prison) Kyran? Isn't he the one that Sisko let Quark have so he could trade him for Moogie when the Dominion captured her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Wiki says yes. Actually, that's a lie - I don't care enough to look. Let's just pretend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Actually the Vorta that did get captured did say he should have commited suicide but chose not to (In which case he got to spend the rest of his days comfortably in Starfleet prison) Kyran? Isn't he the one that Sisko let Quark have so he could trade him for Moogie when the Dominion captured her? Sorry i spelt his name wrong - Keevan (was mixing him up with Kyran on IRC for some reason lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 The real reason? The same that the Jem'Hadar used their Shroud ability about twice a season. Budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 I'd say it's more of a story thing really - DS9 has proven it's special effects in numerous episodes (Big space battles) so i'd say the shouding ability would be a minor thing really budget-wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 It all adds up - they spent most of their money on the the battles, I'll wager. Which is why we had Odo pretty much forget shape-shifting. It's the reason why they had episodes like "In the Cards". Save up their money for a rip roaring explosion ridden ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Its also the reason why the Dominion headquarters on Cardassia consisted of half a public toilet with a couple of maps on the wall. I'm not sure you could get away with a set that shoddy these days. Look at the Xindi council chamber, that was a nice roomy set with good detail, yet there was money to spend on some rather impressive battles that season. I suppose it must be remembered that they were trying to do some pretty massive spacebattles, about 8 years ago, which might have broken the bank somewhat. I'd imagine that casual week to week filming on DS9 would have been pretty expensive too, what with all the outlandish extras on the promenade. I've just ordered the DS9 companion on the cheap from Amazon, aparently its fat, detailed and candid and should be interesting if it goes some way towards explaining how the show worked out week to week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 You could argue that the Dominion Headquarters on cardassia weren't meant for war - it was just a building that was used by the Dominion in the war. And the episode In the Cards was actually quite a good episode - the calm before the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slug Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I do recall it being rather a good farcical episode. Dominion headquarters? I don't really think like that. It was a shoddy set that failed to make the enemy leadership carry much weight. It is forgivable on account of the fact that the show was probably stretched to the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 It was the first introduction of the dominion capital ship... And it was enjoyable but it was very Trek in the fact it just ignored the fact that DS9 was a first strike outpost in an INEVITABLE war. Getting your teddy isn't going to cheer you up anymore than homosexual tension with your Irish pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soval Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Can you really picture Weyoun firing bolts of energy out of his forehead? I couldn't. That was a first-time's the charm type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It wouldn't have suited the racial profile they gave the Vorta... but it's not like there isn't precedent. Just look at the Scarrans, they've got that whole heat probe thing and I suppose if you include inbuilt weaponry, the Daleks and Cybermen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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