Centurion Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I vote for the Predator... What about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Borg cube for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksith Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 hmmm... if shinzon's predator fire first said goodbye to the Borg Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahaha Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I voted for the cube before I realized the romulan ship can fire while cloaked. They never found out if a cube can detect cloaked ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShadow Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 well, i think that this is simple. The cube would win. it has the entire collective resources at its disposel so it would adapt to the weapos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 the predator is toast there are no two ways to look at this. the borg, borg everything in sight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifilmco Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Despite the...um...eloquence with which maverick put it, I have to agree: the Borg would prevail. I also remember mentioning in another thread what a horrible, horrible movie Nemesis was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Hmm... in a straight fight, Cube but if the Predator kept under cloak and deployed its thalaron radiation weapon... well, it would eliminate the drones and hence render the cube useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted November 2, 2005 Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 Thanks for the replies, but I still think the Predator would win... I don't see any Borg cube taking out the Enterprise and the Romulan ships so easily as the Predator did in Nemesis. I suppose the Borg would need two or three cubes to kill it. Anyway, it'd be an interesting fight... BTW, here is a quick article about the Predator: Scimitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulreaper Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I voted for The Scimitar - as noticed I have little respect for the Borg :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Borg cubes aren't what they used to be... when I were a lad, a single Borg cube could take on an entire Federation fleet and leave it for dead with na'ery a scratch almost assimilate the entire solar system and you'd be glad... now one flying bucket of bolts and a deranged captain can face them down... a sorry state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapman Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Ok... fine... there's only 2 way to settle this battle... Mmindnumbingly pointless rambling about which is cooler and who kicks more butt. OR Point by point analysis. Since its ME... it'll be the 1st one :p ok... not very funny. Let's see what are the achievments 1 has done over the ages. SCHIMITAR 1) Has 52 disruptor banks and well... lotsa Torpedo banks... I think about... 38 and outta those... we have NO idea how many Torps it could fire together and what types it carried. Dissruptor wise it had 3 major arrays... that fired in the beam like and arc fashion and about 12+ pulse disruptor type that fired in cannon style like the DEFIANT's one. 2) Cloaking system that's apparently perfect but CAN be detected through wepon trajectory lock 3) Has Primary AND Secondary shields that Regenerate BUT... they are not high capacity ones like that of ENTERPRISE E [i'll explain in a minute how and why] 4) Doesn't have very tough armour... or regenerative 5) ENTERPRISE E went through its shield and HULL and applied heavy damage after ramming it head on... while stuff hitting on ENT E's nacelle bounced off 'cause of the shield. 5) End berdict... a really cool ship to scare Klingons and kick a lotta butt. BORG CUBE 1) Has an immensely powerful tractor beam that can crush ships... an Energy Beam array that can be fired through the Tranctor and decimate a Reguler Federation ship with 1 shot. Ofcourse VOYAGER doesn't fall under that catagory because they r uber cool and don't follow rules and if you bring that up I'll beat you up... or not. Has plasma torpedoes that blow the crap outta any ship other than ofcourse... VOYAGER. Has a cutting beam that can well... cut ANY ship in ST universe... other than ofcourse... you guess it... VOYAGER again. 2) Is over 3 km long... 28 cubic km. 3) Regenarative hull...AND shields... PLUS primary, secondary & tertiary shielding systems. 4) Can adapt to any weapon other than VOYAGER's n 8472's after about 12 hits. 5) Has minimum 100,000 drones half of which work... and atleast 10,000 of which are ready to board any ship and do some whoopa$$. 6) Can surive a planets debris hitting it AFTER the planet has exploded... for a while. 7) Took more than 30 to 50 FED ships... armed to the teeth to destroy one BORG cube AFTER Picard gave its weakness. Yes... the SChimitar is powerful and own any FED ship on 1 on 1 or even 3 on 1 BUT... the end result is... a BORG cube owned FED ships in Wolf 359 and in 1 contact. Shinson's beloved ship couldn't take being rammed while in 1st contact Ships rammed into it at speed as well as in Wolf 359 but the cubes took somewhat damage... nothing major. Plus... fighting a BORG with Disruptor !?... C'mon... they would adapt to that in less than 4 shots... meaning 3. now if you had said VOYAGER vs CUBE or any ship in the ST universe... then they r toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Borg Cube - though i think it might be kinda close - the Scimitar does have really really strong shields but i think the Borg is too much for the Scimatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 now if you had said VOYAGER vs CUBE or any ship in the ST universe... then they r toast. Whaddayamean, not funny, I had a blast reading that, especially the voyager mentionings... to conclude: voyager wrecks the borg.... but the borg wreck the whole quadrant... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapman Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Borg Cube - though i think it might be kinda close - the Scimitar does have really really strong shields but i think the Borg is too much for the Scimatar It actually is weak u know... here's how... Whenever the ship got too much pounding... there were hull damage because the shield failed. Ofcourse I don't mean its weaker than the Warbirds... but definitely weaker than ENT Es ENT E took direct impact to the NACELLE but shield held... while in SCHIMITAR's shield WAS that powerful it won't have been damaged by the Warbird attack on the rear or ENT E ramming it... it'd have moved backwards rather than getting smashed like that. There are lot of other times during that fight u'll see that. Whenever there's a heavy beating the shield fails faster than ENT Es... but with duration in hits... the Shield regenerates very quickly... specially with the secondary shield. Hey... Tetsuo... how do u think VOYAGER will beat SCHIMITAR !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareborg Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 BORG They would just adapt to their shields, weapons, and cloak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Voyager vs. Schimitar Janeway: Tuvok - give me some technobabble to explain how we can beat a shield that is vastly superior to ours in everyway, is crewed by people who aren't inept and pretty much couldn't lose unless crewed by angry goldfish. Tuvok: I believe we can lock onto the intense ugliness of the Remans and then use a 5 trillion isoton warhead that we've secretly had for mohtns but never mentioned to destroy them. Janeway: Fire! And so Voyager wins. Hell, that's the Voyager movie RIGHT THERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapman Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Oh... what an epic battle that would be... But there'd be a twist... u're forgetting to mention that. Being the dumbass idiots they are VOYAGER blows themselves up as well. Never Fear 30 year into the future some idiot with no social life... gets addicted to VOYAGER's uberness and steals a timeship from a 29th century time enforcer who just happened to crash land and died. The fearless loser uses that to go back in time and SAVE VOYAGER by changing the chroton particles coherant frequency to a incoherent mambo jumbo that creates headache for the telepathic Reman's as they realise that their foe is superiorly mindnumbingly dumb. Janeway says MAXIMUM WARP and Paris goes eye eye as they leave the fearless unknown loser to sacrifice himself with the more advanced ship... which at the right time lost all its weapons... but still manages to destroy the Schimitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 It's important that the last thing Janeway says after the Scimitar has been utterly destroyed is "I've a feeling we haven't seen the last of them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 You guys should send that stuff to Braga and co... Might even be recorded one day... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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