MrDad Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 http://www.simulation-argument.com/ ABSTRACT. This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman†stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 So...we are in a matrix so to speak? Scarey thought. How would we know? What could we do about it? Well, I needed something to keep my mind occupied today... c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 What if we were in a matrix within a matrix? Sort of a puzzle wrapped inside another one, like a backup safety ;o *shrug* the whole "it could all be a dream" thing has been thought over for generations, it's possible but then again we could end up like the ending of Men in Black; our universe is but a simple marble amongst hundreds of other universes also contained in marbles all being used in a game of marbles by one giant alien o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quig69 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If this is just a Matrix, could someone please program me a bigger bank account??? Is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnot Borg Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Well, all I can say is that if the Matrix has us... Couldn't we get better entertainment on our battery network? Hello, Matrix HQ, it's boring without Star Trek on tv any more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 So...we are in a matrix so to speak? Scarey thought. How would we know? What could we do about it? Well, I needed something to keep my mind occupied today... c4 :thinking: I have a feeling I have better things to do, as soon as I figure out what they are, or what 'they' want me to think they are. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetsuoShima Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Impossible to tell, I suggest you just treat life as if it were real, whether it is or not... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If a simulation is so real as to be indifferential FROM the real... then why should it be any less real than what is really real? No lies though, I won't bother reading the article - my time is better spent writing on porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones2097 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 see i told you i could fly!!!!! nobody belived me! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synexo Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If you kill yourself, you wake up in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 not that i've ever called out "computer - end program" or anything :rolleyes: but i often wonder what will happen when we die - and if there is somthing more than what we see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorunNova Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Wouldn't it be funny if this reality were a selection scheme for citizens of a higher reality? We go through life as a test of worthiness? Of course, if it were, it wouldn't really change anything, as we would have no idea what they're selecting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashfox Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 i've seen several programmes on this theory that we are all in a computer simulation. At the end of the day we wont ever find out because any research into this theory would just be computer simulated research. if we are in a simulation then we cant do anything about it! we might all be characters in someones program and maybe when someone dies in this world someone else actually presses the 'delete character' button on their pc. what a thought! :stare: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 If you kill yourself' date=' you wake up in the real world.[/quote'] I think I can wait. Besides, knowing my luck, it's probably something worse. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vystral Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 ha you all caught me. this entire universe is one of my elaborate dreams. beep beep! oh no! alarm clock! goodbye cruel world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 No, no, it's one of my novels, the one I'm working on now, and you'd better hope I finish it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USWhoFan Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 If none of this is real and none of it matters, then I'm gonna be pissed... I hate going to work! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaC Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 For all we know we are just some kind of parasite much like a fungus growth and we are destroying the 'Earth' as we call it. Its like good bacteria vs bad bacteria.... and why is everything round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 There is a whole school of philosophy that claims that nothing exists outside our minds. That we simulate everything within our brains (if it is indeed a brain, that part could also be a simulation) and that nothing else is real. I mean, there's no way to truly know that anything IS real outside our own perception of the world. We are all ultimately alone within our own minds after all and as far as we know for certain, nothing is real except ourselves. It's an interesting theory, but if I delve to deep into philosophical obscurities I get a headache. It must be some sort of safeguard. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StitchInTime Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 There is a whole school of philosophy that claims that nothing exists outside our minds.:) Fortunately, that means that they don't exist either. :cyclops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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