Tenebrae Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 How about using the same formula - namely, women with big boobs in tight outfits??? I know you're upset, so I'll pretend you didn't say that ;) But yes - I'd say that greed and the formulaic nature of the franchise probably rang the deathknell. Some good points there Vyperion - I saw Patrick Stewart on TV the other day and apparently he'd been pretty sure that TNG wouldn't last a season. For me - awaits inevitable c4evap response - VOY and the first 2 seasons of pretty much TNG formula... but just not as good. DS9 was a considerable change from the format of TOS/TNG (well, after "The Jem'Hadar") but then VOY and then ENT went straight back to it. I can only assume that B&B thought to themselves "If it ain't broke..." when in fact there was a gnawing decay. Anyway, best to abruptly stop this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I thoroughly enjoyed enterprise, lamented its passing and sincerely hope that new trek will be produced this decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Since the fanbase is opposed to innovation it would be very difficult. The first thing the fans would do is checking the continuity for errors and looking for misplaced joints on the uniforms - called "nitpicking". Todays Star Trek fanbase is a bunch of nitpickers like the guy who pointed out 90+ mistakes in "Nemesis". Would you produce another show for such fans? I seriously wouldn't. perhaps, but i like funding the odd discontinuity and i like nitpicking. its in the job description for a trekkie!:D im not opposed to innovation but something convicingly new and entertaining need to be thought of. the show was gettin old .....and please dont let some cruise singer do the soundtrack this time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Lyrics for a Trek theme were definitely a step in the wrong direction. Also - people nitpicking isn't specific to Trek. Any "cult" show will have those who obsess and note continuity errors etc. etc. I think that Trek has to innovate or die. Season 4 of ENT was a step in the right direction but I think the problem is that the Trek universe is just so entrenched that people with a new idea would probably be better off going and doing their own thing - like JMS did with B5 - rather than setting it in the Star Trek universe. Hell, if I was trying to pitch a concept that was new and such, I'd probably want to make sure I didn't associate it with Trek - which has not enjoyed a particularly good reputation for innovation in recent years. That said, there are doubtless hundreds of people who would queue up so they could be involved in Trek. However, my time here has made me think that there probably would be a considerable number of people who would have a kneejerk reaction to anything outside of the format of Federation ship/station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoxjesse Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 OK i agree with the "lyrics" thing u said, i think i shut the tv off when i heard that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 The music for ENT always made me thinking the show was about some struggling black lesbian single mother in the midwest and all her hilarious antics with her bigotive employer and friends. That could just be me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Nobody liked ENT mirror universe theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterus Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I'm against pretty much everything with Scott Bakula or that retard that played Trip in Enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 The mirror universe theme was actually a big improvement... hell, the mirror universe was a big improvement - period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon89 Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Oh yea....i really like the mirror universe's theme song......anybody got the theme song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 I have it yeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subspatial Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 I hope he wasn't referring to a new season of the Fan-Produced "Star Trek Hidden Frontier"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 A new startrek series would be fantastic! The problem with Enterprise was more with the writers then with the fans. There just going to have to bring in some "new blood" to write the episodes. Originality is what's called for, SG1 has the same problem and is doomed to be cancelled because of it. This last season of SG1 was the worst ever. Meanwhile Stargate Atlantis seems to be flourishing. The common ground to be found is THE WRITERS.....The fans will support the shows if they have merit, if not they'll be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Ah, thank you katerina. I was starting to think I was just about the only person that saw the terminal state SG-1 has gotten itself into... and I think that new blood is important. I know after almost 200 episodes, I'd be about tapped for ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katerina Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Exactlllllllllyyyyyyyyy! Time for some new writers! SG1 is going to fail next season and be cancelled!!! apparently the new episode is bringing back that lame "wormhole extreme" bullshit! REALLY HOW LAME IS THAT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 haha - that Wormhole Extreme ep was so bad :rolleyes: I've deffinetly seen a lack of imagination in these last few eps of SG-1 i've seen (This is season 8 i'm watching right now) So yeah i agree that new blood is needed to get some good stories going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 What better way to celebrate the 200th episode than a Wormhole XREME lame-a-rama? It's common practice to regularly change writers for sitcoms... I don't see why sci-fi feels it has to suffer bad writers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I'll be the first to badmouth SG-1's episode 200 if it's lame, but I think it's wrong to prejudge the episode based on some spoilers released by SciFi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 It could still be a good episode... but this seems akin to letting down a cars tires before the big race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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