Have you stopped downloading since the MPAA announcement?

[quosego]

Well I'm still downloading like crazy.... I even started my own torrent site :).... (Allthough I'm not allowed to mention it here...) So it got only worse since the MPAA announcement.

[OverlordQ]

HA i will never stop dowloading and if i go to jail it will be as a political prisioner, i believe that as human being we are all equal, and that u can not copyright things of culture like music, movies or games.

Next thing there gonna say ooh wait u cant name your son brian that name has been copyrighted by Capitol, your son is now our property.

As far as being allowed to make copies for personal back up. Why should we only be allowed to make x amount of copies, we already paid for all intellectual property rights when we bought the product.

 

It is now we must stand up and fight for these rights, the freedom to share information with others be it in the form of, playboys,games,movies,music,IM,blogging,software,or publicly broadcasted tv shows is at an all time risk. :cyclops: Not since the times of the europeans fleeing europe's tyrannical rulers(who also liked to control the sharing of

information) has our freedom been in such peril.

 

Guess what people there is no where left to run..... It's time to make a stand!!

 

A concered Canuak :thinking:

 

It seems people on this forum have a misconception about the **AA's position.

 

They dont care if you make 50,000 backups of a DVD or 30,000 rips of a CD. They only care when you start distributing this to other people. That my good man, is illegal.

[OverlordQ]

All I usually downloaded was T.V. Shows and movies you can't either buy or see anymore.

If they are losing soo much money, then why waste what is left on lawyers.

I got things like Firefly, Quantum Leap, and Space Above and Beyond because they weren't on TV anymore. I even found some obscure shows like Maxx Headroom, that probably will never be on TV again.

/rant

 

Firefly and Quantum Leap are still on TV, you just got to know where to look.

 

 

[OverlordQ]

being a Canadian Citizen. its illegal for them to track my downloads as it is an invasion of my human rights. but they can't stop sharing media' date=' bittorrent was the easiest. but we always have IRC or Direct Connect, sure its a little more work but its gets the job done. I mean there have been pirated music since they pretty much were avalible on Records or 8 Tracks. what they need to do is make DVD's and CD's worth buying and not over priced. I will continue downloading things not because of them. its because many of the things I want aren't availible for me to get and those that are rarely stay on my pc for any length of time.if MPAA wants P2P to die down stop popping up with pirating is evil and wrong. and calling it piracy. it makes it sound cool and interesting. [/quote']

 

How is it a violation of your rights? Oh wait, you're saying that that would violate Canadian Law? Well you cant have your cake and eat it too, what you're doing violates US Law, you can't have it both ways. There is no 'right' to getting Movies/Games/TV Shows for free as alot of people on this forum seem to think. Yes I download stuff too, but I"m just trying to justify it by claiming it's my 'right' to steal* from others.

 

 

* Yes many people claim it's not stealing because no tangible object was taken, but I digress

[hecate900]

being a Canadian Citizen. its illegal for them to track my downloads as it is an invasion of my human rights. but they can't stop sharing media' date=' bittorrent was the easiest. but we always have IRC or Direct Connect, sure its a little more work but its gets the job done. I mean there have been pirated music since they pretty much were avalible on Records or 8 Tracks. what they need to do is make DVD's and CD's worth buying and not over priced. I will continue downloading things not because of them. its because many of the things I want aren't availible for me to get and those that are rarely stay on my pc for any length of time.if MPAA wants P2P to die down stop popping up with pirating is evil and wrong. and calling it piracy. it makes it sound cool and interesting. [/quote']

 

How is it a violation of your rights? Oh wait, you're saying that that would violate Canadian Law? Well you cant have your cake and eat it too, what you're doing violates US Law, you can't have it both ways. There is no 'right' to getting Movies/Games/TV Shows for free as alot of people on this forum seem to think. Yes I download stuff too, but I"m just trying to justify it by claiming it's my 'right' to steal* from others.

 

 

* Yes many people claim it's not stealing because no tangible object was taken, but I digress

 

Obviosly u dont understand that Canada is a sovereign nation and US law MEANS ABSOUTLY NOTHING HERE.. That would be like us sayin well heh Pot is not gonna get to 10 yrs to life here we expect you in the US to honor this as well....DUH

 

PS being a socialist nation we can have our cake and eat it to..We paid for it hehe

[mordrin]

About 90percent of what I download is SciFI tv episodes say Battlestar Galectica and Stargate. The reason for downloading is that I am usually at work when the episodes in question are on my paid for cable channel. So what is the difference in downloading from the internet rather than recording on my old video, (which you can do if it is only for your own use).

So no I am not going to change that habbit.

[StitchInTime]

I have no money to buy, no cable, dialup only, and no DVD burner (not even a DVD player). Even if I bought a DVD burner, I don't have enough RAM and hard drive space left over to work it properly anyway. Hence, my downloading is very limited, and I don't download any movies or American TV shows or audios (not even music). So, nothing's changed really.

 

If I had the money, I'd probably buy what I want.

[TetsuoShima]

When you're faced with a situation such as the movie studios are atm, you have to step back and have a look what the best course of action is. The one they chose would have been succesfull if it was only a handfull of people doing stuff they want them to do, in this case they will not succeed only with law-suits, simply because they cannot possibly get even one quarter of the people who are disregarding their 'rights', let alone all of them...

 

So they are now trying to get the top and hope the body will fall, however, they are faced with a 'multiheaded respawning dragon', cut one off, 2 new come in its place...

 

The only thing they can do is adjust their entire distribution and technology to the world-economy. Something they have failed to do and as long as they fail in doing so, they will continue to lose. Sure they might win a few battles, but unless they either buy the parliament (as they're trying to) or adjust their policies, they will not succeed...

 

However, we should keep in mind that these companies have absolutely no intrest in consumer rights, they're only interested in their pockets, if they could make you pay to live, they would... My point: they're not interested in spreading material, they're only interested in making sure that their 'intellectual property' retains its value and once everybody has the material, it loses its value, so they really don't want that, hence the high prices... And the piracy...

[Turbo21]

I personally haven't really changed my habits.....I am the sole provider in a single income family, so money is always tight, that being said, of movies I have d/l and planned to d/l in the future, 95% of them I have purchased and the 5% I didn't weren't worth d/ling. Even on my tight budget I still have over 300 legal DVDs. Now TV shows is where I differ, I d/l all I can CSI, Star Trek being the main ones, I would possibly consider buying them except for the, in my humble opinion, outrageous prices they charge for a season. If I did not d/l them then I would pain-stakingly wait for the reruns and record them off the TV instead of buying them...it's just that simple and the only way I can foresee it changing is if and only if I won the lottery and then it would be a big maybe. Well there's my 2 cents...if it's worth that! LOL

[ts2505]

Announcement? What announcement? Being a Canuck, I don't give a damn about the fascist RIAA and the MPAA. By the way, the MPAA bends rules as they like it - a lot of movies are made in Canada because it is cheaper than the USA - why? Because there are too many laws and too many restrictions on them down there. Sort of tells you something about them - they don't give a damn about the people or the country - they just care about themselves and their money. I will not buy any new CDs or DVDs with protection on them. I have ever only downloaded tv shows that I cannot get in my local area (3 TV channels on air). I also work nights when these shows are on. In closing, I just want to say "thanks" to all those who took the time to upload the shows. You are not crooks - you are heros (at least out here in the boonies of the great white north!).

[GLaDio]

Not at all. I download MORE just out of spite. I don't even watch half of it!

[GhostShadow]

Not at all. I download MORE just out of spite. I don't even watch half of it!

 

HERE HERE!!

 

I did the same! lol. I went to one of my many other torrent sites and DLed every thing that I had space for, I am Dling right now.

 

 

"SCREW YOU BLOODY MPAA SCUM, MAY YA'LL BURN IN A RAGING INFERNO OF PAIN IN HELL WITH HITLER!!!!!"

[GLaDio]

i upgraded my connection and bought a new 300GB hdd

i guess i don't have to say how i'm gonna fill that up :P

[atgxtg]

I probably download less. There are somethings I still DL,stuff that isn't available through other means-mostly anime (and the anime community has a different set of rules about file sharing).

 

On the other hand, having once been caught up in a witchhunt by Warner Bros over a film that I did not download, I have in my own small way, retailited. I no longer buy Warner Bros DVDs, so the WB will never make another dime off of me. I started buying Region 2 Doctor Who DVDs from amazon uk, even through they do cost more that the US releases, just so that Warners doen't make any money off of it. Anything out from Warner that I REALLY want, I pick up used from one of several shops that sell used DVDs. I aslo avoid Warner films in the cinema.

 

 

So far, Warner's stupidity has cost them over $300 in DVD sales (of my money, anyway) in 2005, and over $100 so far for 2006.

 

 

 

You know, if everybody who doesn't like the way the big studios and the MPAA were to adopt a similar philosphy, we would have a compley legal, low cost way to get our point across to the MPAA in a method that they might understand and take notice off. There is a big difference between losing an estimated $5 million dollars a year and losing $5million dollars in profits. Maybe more.

 

Just a thought.

[pallamedes]

There is lots of discussion about the morality and dignity of downloading material which was copyrighted. Personally I mis the viewpoint of the New Economy here. There has been lots said about this in the media and the term has obviously been misused and concequently misunderstood. The whole New Economy principle revolves around the possibility of unlimmited duplication without any loss to the original. The ultimate shareware. Digitallisation of various kinds has made this a reality for music, movies, books, software and various less know combinations and hybrids of the mentioned media.

 

The New Economy differs from the Old Economy, in the fact that there is no scarecity involved. And it is the Old Economy which dicates that without that, the price is reduced to the manifacturing cost, the intrinsic value.

 

Its a bit of al dull story, I realise this. The point however, is that the digitalisation of important parts of our everyday lives can be considered as an importend leap towards a monetary free society, just as it was foreseen by Gene Roddenberry in the Star Trek Saga.

 

Discussions of who is getting rich of who, and who is robbing who from what, are no more dan the final spasms of a dying beast, our Old Econemy, in which money was everything. And I cant say its much of a loss to the world.

[cyberbob]

I now use something called rapid share.

 

For 30 bucks ever 6 months this German site lets me dload from an actual ftp server. Only thing is that you can not just browse their content and so you have to look around at message boards and find posts of people who have uploaded things and then go rapid share and enter in the contents ID and then download it. I don't know....I guess that way they can keep it kind of private while at the same time they can have the free service as well (you have to wait in que though) without being too bothered by the MPAA/RIAA

 

For real though....200-500K/s isnt bad at all

[jhug666]

i know its illgal but someof the documentries that were posted were really good, i haven't been able to find the borg doc or the night with stephen hawking anyware eles

[wagboy]

Ah i just got an email from my ISP telling me that someone tracked my dl when i was using BIT torrent and i got a stern warning and a possible lawsuit! and i live in calgary,canada.

[vtallbloke]

I dont really post to often on these forums anymore, but I will post to this one.

 

I agree with what most people are saying above.

 

I usually d/l stuff that is a long ways off release in the UK (TV Shows only). I do purchase them on DVD once released here, but again I wait until they have been out a few months, when the cost has often come down by 50%.

 

These people (The MPAA Etc) all state that High prices in the stores are dictated by the stores that sell them, not themselves (the artists, actors etc). This has been a problem since the advent on CDs when the cost was pence to make/produce them, but they always sold more costly than the Vinyl that they were there to replace (which incidently was more expensive to produce).

 

I do believe in the artists getting paid for their work, but why do we have to pay such a high price to the middle man?

 

In the UK the cost is higher than in other countries, which is why the Web opened up whole new sources of Media, at certainly less than we would pay in this country. This is also true of other items, Such as Cars. There has been a lot of press coverage on alledged "Price Fixing" as some car models were as much as 10K (£) less in parts of Europe than here in the UK.

 

Anyways I am rambling (sorry). So for me its other, I still get my fix of BSG and SG1 (atlantis now finished) and I do Purchase them when released, but WONT pay original release price for them.

 

 

[Beawulf]

I *want* to be able to pay to download the latest eps. I am rarely free to watch things when they air on tv. I am pissed off at the lack of legitimate services available to people. There is clearly a demand, why are they wasting time when they could be making heaps of money!

 

When I heard that itunes was providing BSG I was thrilled, as it wont be shown on tv here for probably 2 years, and even then there is no garuntee I will be able to watch it (or that it wont be pulled from the programing for sport like all other sci fi in the past). Except that service isnt available to me because I am not in the US!! My money not good enough for you frakkers?!

 

An ISP locally has started advertising it is making movies available on the net, once again I thought "GREAT!!", checked out the service to see what sort of movies were on offer and their sci fi section sucked, only had about 7 titles and I dont think any of them were made after 1980.

 

 

"They" should stop wasting people's money sueing children and dead people (or anyone for that matter) and take advantage of the new market. Obviously it is going to exist and flourish whether they want it to or not, so they should get involved and make legitimate alternatives widely available.