Amnot Borg Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 c4? did you see the L&O SVU ep tuesday night? Your favorite captain had a guest spot. Which reminds me, how did they get rid of so many lawyers in star trek? That could be an interesting episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayden Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 The Prime Directive probably doesn't have much to say about dropping salamanders on an uninhabited planet. I wonder what my ranking in the Janeway bashing league is... Ooo, here's a good WHAT IF - Unification, Picard and co failed to alert the Federation of the Romulan plan and Unification began! That could have made for some interesting stories. I suppose.. it is a kind of odd topic to through in there. i can imagin it. Page 312, Sub section 124, Paragraph 12, line 5. In the case of an emergancy drop off of a salamander love child certain planets are aloud while others are strictly prohibited..... ... But its true they could have been drawn to the planet for unexplained reasons, somebodys got there thinking cap on. lol That would be Pretty good. They could have expanded on the whole concept. POssibly made some kind of 'off cut' mini series. maybe developed the Romulan's a little. Has anyone noticed out of the multiple episodes and series there is still very little information shown about the them?? It could be somethin to do with keeping them a private culture because they dont exactly have much to do with the rest of the quadrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 maybe developed the Romulan's a little. The danger there is that development eliminates mystery and for the Romulans, that remaining secrecy they have is probably one of their more attractive features. The Borg were a good example of how knowing too much about a race can really balls them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Why is everyone so bothered by Voyager beating Borg... They had more knowledge of the borg and also there ship was enhanced with borg technology... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Yeah, but the writers made the Borg (who should have been the hardest bunch of bast**ds outside of Glasgow) into, well, pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Not really to be honest... Examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Not really to be honest... Examples? Ok so in Scorpion we had the Borg get ripped to threads by 8472 - but that was ok because 8472 was really cool. BUT in Dark Frontier - we see Voyager go right into the Heart of Borg space and take back 7of9 in front of her eyes. Now - in Unimatrix Zero - we saw Voyager take on a Tactical Borg Cube and actually last about 10 minutes without loosing there sheilds and then in part 2 - Voyager once again manages to rescue its crew back from inside this 'fully armed' cube And then in Endgame - we get to see the Borg crumble away because of Admiral Janeway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayden Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 maybe developed the Romulan's a little. The danger there is that development eliminates mystery and for the Romulans, that remaining secrecy they have is probably one of their more attractive features. The Borg were a good example of how knowing too much about a race can really balls them up. yes thats true but they could have also approched it a little differntly than they did wit the borg. with a bit more finnes' to keep the mystery there, but it could also have been tradjic at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayden Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 Not really to be honest... Examples? Ok so in Scorpion we had the Borg get ripped to threads by 8472 - but that was ok because 8472 was really cool. BUT in Dark Frontier - we see Voyager go right into the Heart of Borg space and take back 7of9 in front of her eyes. Now - in Unimatrix Zero - we saw Voyager take on a Tactical Borg Cube and actually last about 10 minutes without loosing there sheilds and then in part 2 - Voyager once again manages to rescue its crew back from inside this 'fully armed' cube And then in Endgame - we get to see the Borg crumble away because of Admiral Janeway.... The borg are differnt to any other type of species thought. are we forgetting that they wont really attack something unless they think its hostile. and why destroy a ship when it has somewthing on it u can assimilate n just disable the ship??? i think they continually were at a loss to janeway because they continually wanted her, seven of nine, and the fancy technology they had picked up that the borg knew they had but couldnt get. And for the borg to get all theses things they tried to trap voyager but never got the right chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 The Borg sent one cube in and were able to destory the Federation Fleet - Twice! And yet - here's Voyager and managed to survive against a more heavily armed cube and manages to infiltrate the heart of the collective with a shuttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 1 - They assimilate technology... They didn't learn on themselfs, so they needed voyager to come up with something... 2 - I can't remember, i'm rewatching voyager, so i'll get back on that... All i can say is that Seven of Nine knows all about the borg, and i think they had borg/technical enhancements by that time. (also lots of experience) 3 - Admiral Janeway was from the future... So yeah... I find those explanations good enough for me :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayden Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 ive got to agree with glac.. they had encountered the borg a whole lot more than any other crew or members of the federation. and key factor seven of nine was able to enhance there shielding, tactics, evasive manouvers and all that because she knew how they thought. plus they did have those nanite warheads that were pretty devistating to species 8472 let along the borg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 The borg technology was removed from Voyager after Scorpion, you can tell because there aren't green glowing bits on the hull and Be'lanna bitches about having to take them out because they keep repairing. I think it's fair to say that the only Borg tech they have left is on 7 of 9 and in her alcove. Another example - the episode where Icheb gets home and then abducted by the Borg (again) has Voyager pulling some easy hang time against a Borg cube without any real damage. There are other examples but considering my point had precious little to do with Voyager and more about the Romulans, I don't think they're necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 ive got to agree with glac.. they had encountered the borg a whole lot more than any other crew or members of the federation. and key factor seven of nine was able to enhance there shielding' date=' tactics, evasive manouvers and all that because she knew how they thought. plus they did have those nanite warheads that were pretty devistating to species 8472 let along the borg.[/quote'] There are limits to how much 7of9 can do - even the drone from the 29th Century could not enhance Voyagers systems to defeat a Borg Sphere so - no And those nanite Warheads - i never saw them used - and when Voyager ever fired normal torpedoes - we didn't see much damage caused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 There are limits to how much 7of9 can do - even the drone from the 29th Century could not enhance Voyagers systems to defeat a Borg Sphere so - no The 29th century borg, was made of 29th century stuff, but didn't know anything about future technology nor the borg... (i think) The borg technology was removed from Voyager after Scorpion, you can tell because there aren't green glowing bits on the hull and Be'lanna bitches about having to take them out because they keep repairing. I think it's fair to say that the only Borg tech they have left is on 7 of 9 and in her alcove. Im not sure if everything was removed, but as i said, im not on that part yet... And last time i saw all episodes was like 3 years ago :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Yes but even if seven did know about the Borg tech - What could she actually do - she can improve there shields - but i mean if a Borg Cube can destroy the Federation Fleet - 7of9 must have upgraded there shields CONSIDERABLY! which i doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Come on, it's a well known fact that all upgrades reset after the end of the episode. It's a precident set in TNG, when Barclay became a 1337 h4x0r and went and upgraded the shields to be 400% better - never saw that when they were facing off against the Romulans. The 29th century drone was also h4x but yes, if he couldn't help Voyager toast a Sphere, it's unlikely 7 could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlaC Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 The 29th Century drone, didn't come from the 29th century... Only its technology, but not its knowledgde... But never mind... I don't really care either :P. Its good enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFMF Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Yes but the drone had the echnology to upgrade their systems - better than 7 could have. He actually said somthing like "Your technology is limited - i cannot enhance it further" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Yup, that's what I was getting at. If you have a waffle iron - unless you're replicators - there is only so much you can do with that waffle iron. Even if you're the coolest waffle iron engineer from the 29th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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