crock9000 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 i am a huge fan of Dr Who old and new and i was wondering if anybody knew which series of eps the time lords actually die in. In the new seasons he mentions that they were all killed in a war with the darlecs and i was curiious to when this happend. I have not seen these eps and i was wondering if anybody could help. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 As far as I'm aware, it's not been chronicled in any episodes but is merely relayed by the Doctor. I think it's probably one of those events that is alluded to but will probably never be shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underscore Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Yeah, its definitely not in any episodes of the old series. Definite fact :) I think they made their first appearance in the war games episode 10. The deadly assassin and invasion of time are both on their planet galifrey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nope, not even us real HUGE fans knew until 'The End Of The World' episode in Season 27 (1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subspatial Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 and perhaps the new Doctor will have an episode about it... Here's hoping anyway... ... A 'future' Doctor could travel back to the 'Timelord vs Dalek War'. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tablet Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 and perhaps the new Doctor will have an episode about it... Here's hoping anyway... ... A 'future' Doctor could travel back to the 'Timelord vs Dalek War'. :) wouldnt the doctor do that anyway? i dont think the term dead is right, 'dead' meaning some timed existance which the doctor could exploit in his tardis and go back to see them, i think the term 'ereased form history' would be more fitting, as if to say they never existed, thus not allowing the doctor to go back and save his people :stare: then again you never know what the writers will do next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalith Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Eradicated, Obliterated, Anhialated, Exterminated from history maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Surely it must be taken that they somehow got erased from existence. Otherwise the Doctor could just go and say hi to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 If the Time Lords were erased from existence (ie. never existed), then no one, other than perhaps the Doctor, would remember them. But that isn't the case as Tree Lady from "The End of the World" had the Time Lords in her database as extinct. There are obviously protocols to time travel that the Doctor needs to follow that prevent him from returning to Gallifrey in the past. My guess is that the experience would be too painful for him and that the urge to change events would be just too much for him to handle so it's a personal choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I don't know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tablet Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 yeah the doctor isnt well known for following any rules/laws etc. Just watch though season 3 will end up being the dalek war...the entire season :P just joking i bet RTD isnt that predicatable. you see this could spark up debates as to why he never goes back and saves any of his companions when they die (Adric) maybe he prefers to look forward not back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think the reason he doesn't go back and save anyone was more or less explained in Father's Day. The Doctor has been known to disobey rules, but there appear to be certain laws that even HE cannot break, such as once you enter a timeline you become part of events. If someone dies in front of you you can't just hop into the Tardis, go back ten minutes, and save them. If you do, those Dragon-thingies come down and begin swallowing everyone in the universe until the correct timeline is restored. I assume the idea is to keep paradoxes from happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tablet Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gathererhade Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 So by your reckoning, Maybrick, the Doctor could have saved Adric as he never saw him actually die - just the freighter blowing up. There is a difference. Adric may ahve been out of there by then - last second rescue & all that. As to the question of WHY he didn't do it... well, I think that's obvious. :p Subspatial. Can I say I hope we DON'T get to see them. I think the show is better off without them, actually. It was one of RTD's best moves to exterminate them. Now if ONE other Timelord survived & we saw that adventure. Different thing altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybrick Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 I don't really know, as I haven't seen the episode, gathererhade. All I can say is that maybe with his status as a Timelord he can distinguish the difference between when someone has reached the natural end of their lives and when someone hasn't. Maybe he knew that Adric was fated to die in the explosion? Your guess is as good as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pella Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I think the Timelords will return at some point, if nothing else we'll definetely see the return of The Master, RTD has brought back all the main bad guys it would be folly not to bring him back and technically he could have 'survived' the Time War as he is trapped in the TARDIS circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenebrae Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 The Master has the resurrection equivalent of an uber character shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypha01 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 The Time War started apparently with Genesis of the daleks, when the Time lords sent the 4th (urgh) doctor back to destroy them from birth. My guess is the time war was mostly that exacty that. Going back and forth in time trying to wipe each other from existance. Wouldnt that make more sense ? As for the master, Survival made a perfect end for him, I wouldnt want him back personally. Id rather just see good NEW baddies myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrimmer Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Perhaps, The Master can return, and join forces with The Doctor to save the Timelords. (Perhaps the Doctor cant save them, but he can help The Master save them... Sort of like Logopolis.) Of course, with a Master backstabbing plan to... er... steal the source of Timelord power or somesuch. Predictable? Yes. Fan Boy wet dream... Oh yeah baby! (if only K9 and Romana could take part in it, then I would have to watch the episode wearing Depends!) Sorry for that image everyone. :stare: I think the Timelords will return at some point' date=' if nothing else we'll definetely see the return of The Master, RTD has brought back all the main bad guys it would be folly not to bring him back and technically he could have 'survived' the Time War as he is trapped in the TARDIS circuits.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Man Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 i am a huge fan of Dr Who old and new and i was wondering if anybody knew which series of eps the time lords actually die in. In the new seasons he mentions that they were all killed in a war with the darlecs and i was curiious to when this happend. I have not seen these eps and i was wondering if anybody could help. Thanks. I'm not convinced that the Timelords are dead. In Doomsday the Daleks used Timelord technology (the Genesis Ark) to survive the Time War. The Doctor knew nothing of the Genesis Ark as he stated in that episode. So what's to prevent the Timelords from having used the same technology to escape obliteration, something that the Doctor would not have knowledge of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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