Do alternative realities exist?

[Pella]

Congratulatons to you Pella! You've just made the 62000th post on the forum! :)

 

(I was watching it for the last 5 minutes to see who would be the lucky one. Don't ask what you won though, b'cause I really don't know...)

 

[weep's like Gwyneth Paltrow at an oscar speech] I like to thank many people for this award.... [/weep's like Gwyneth Paltrow at an oscar speech]

 

Why didn't you post for youself? you should have taken this honour.

[Sly12]

there's two ways of looking at things...

 

We're either subject to the will of a advance from of life we can't understand it's so advanced... or everything is just a random probablity of energy forming at different levels... the first meaning... everything is controlled... the second... anything is possible once we can manipulate energy and the most basic level possible.

[Pella]

there's two ways of looking at things...

 

We're either subject to the will of a advance from of life we can't understand it's so advanced... or everything is just a random probablity of energy forming at different levels... the first meaning... everything is controlled... the second... anything is possible once we can manipulate energy and the most basic level possible.

 

But Which Do you believe it is?

[GhostShadow]

MY HEAD HURST< I NEED TO TALK TO MY MONK!!!!!!!!

[elderbear]

But in a multiverse with infinite realities, there are infinite possiblities. Therefore in one those realities

I really hope that makes sense.

 

An infinite set does not require that every possibility in the set be realized. For example, the integers are an infinite set, yet none of the fractions are realized in the set of integers. When you include the fractions, there are an infinite number of infinite sets of numbers - but this is still not a filled set. between any pair of fractions, an infinite set of irrational numbers exists ...

 

It does not necessarily follow, therefore, that in an infinite multiverse with infinite realities, you would have gone back in time and killed one of your ancestors. That is not required.

 

:)

[elderbear]

MY HEAD HURST< I NEED TO TALK TO MY MONK!!!!!!!!

 

Would that be an Electronic Monk?

[elderbear]

I bet that star trek exist in an alternite reality, lol. PROVE ME WRONG.

 

I just came back from that alternate reality, and it turns out that Gene Roddenberry went back in time and killed his own grandfather rather than creating Star Trek!

 

 

[elderbear]

I dunno... infinite possibilies means infinite options, and you can't have infinite options in a finite space... mathematically speaking, of course ^^

 

Sure you can!

 

You cannot have infinite options in a quantum physical space! But in a pure mathematical space, I can have an infinite number of options between 0 and 1. First option is at 0, second at 1/2, third at 1/4, etc ..., having a bit turned on or off at each 2^-n. Works quite nicely.

 

B)

 

But then along comes Schroedinger's cat to spoil all that fun - unless/until somebody proves Cantor right.

[dr_strekge]

I think there is a lot of misunderstanding and guessing about this particular concept, one is how the modern scientific defines it, the other is how sci-fi fans understand it according to the series they watch, comics, or supposes, the other is the thing it self, how it works.

 

For example in the Saint Seiya series 7 senses or cosmos are managed in a chi charging way, but when we try to fuse marvel’s conception of alternate universes (a comic series) with sci-fi concepts, we end going too far from the real thing.

 

7 cosmos approach is Vedic (8000 years old or pre-diluvia cultures studied this things with no telescopes or theorizing but with meditation) and stablish an scale of almost infinite levels and sublevels  of conscious for the living beings, or levels of perception of reality, being very complex to explain because if the Absolute is already fill, how would not be  try to understand the vacuum to the mind, vacuum means no shape no images and mind can’t formulate concepts without nothing form or with the shapeless.

 

The other phenomenon that explain part of this enigma is the so called divine gift or faculty of "ubiquity" or "to be in many places at the same time", (a person who is able like Ten Shin Han of DBZ of being many but the same person in far distant places at the same time, the opposite situation: from the real world conceptions to the anime, examples of these are in the bible by St. Philip and others)  or the real or secret mummification techniques, cause a god or deity doesn't  need to "descend" from their reality to make her mummy reappears in this manifestation and talk and go and do whatever they have to do, same occurs in our selves, inversely form here to there but alternating with the opposite polarities to the manifestation or consciousness states you thing you are (here), so you exist there, so your not lineal, that’s correct, we are there but we have not gained conscious about that existence. When you pray for the deceased or for the livings you care about, when you receive a sacrament like the baptism or common-union, this is actually happening in a multi-verse reality, you only see your self in  your physical body standing there, bBecause you are not awake of conscious to realize your higher being parts taking part of every act in a way accordingly to that reality.

 

7 main cosmos have been clearly differenced from one to the each other , but there are a lot of infinite sub levels or grades between each state, the paradise of women who die giving birth conceived by ancients cultures are just one state of happiness, because nature is mother too and is very wise. Other abysms of nature involve other realities where suffering or materialistic life is definitively unsupportable. But not only in 3dimensional perception like we "normally" perceive this world, so 7 senses is again accurate too because the sensorial death occurs in the absence of any sense to perceive or to be aware of our life without having forms or mediums to express it.

 

The trouble that confuse the most people about this is they try to fit many wrong or misunderstood conceptions of the dimension of Time to their theories or according to what they have seen or read in sci-fi  TV-series, or to the current generally accepted modern science propositions, sci-fi movies or anime series which follow this vicious tendency, so thinking mind always tends to fool it self making other alternative possible hypothesis or pseudo “solutions” to the problems it never could solve by it self  when remaining in that state.(tality is beyond mind mind-tality is in the ultimate a compost word “mentality”).

 

We believe we know much a deal about mind but very few we know about tality of mind…(both sides occidental and oriental ideas are reasonable in part but the real thing superexceeds reason or mind intelective capabilities as a cheap calc and even the most advanced computers cant calculate the exact value of Phi, however not exceeding the 'tality' capabilities of mind, being this a problem of abuse or misuse of the intelective center to do thing that should be investigated with 'tality').

 

Another thing to note is the existence of our counter-part in this or  other reality, the actual nemesis or anti-thesis of our own, but that does't necessary mean it has to be trillions of other anti-thesis of our own out there. The reflexion of light are just the same light but reflexed, still the same light, the shadow or deformation of a certain object by the projected shadow is an anti-thesis but cannot be taked as an exact proportion and measure of the object who project it. There could be many shades and many shadows of a unique thing but in the ultimate conclusion  "the one is also in the others"  (perfect unity-variety) and the others  are alike the one in essence, we reflex our internal and external universe in every reality in which we are. It gets more deep to figure it out, a dead end to the mind,  as I said before, but we could get a minimal and of course not well understood notion of the concept. as I said it concerns to tality not to intelectual mind to solve of find better answer to this enigma... and not only to the mind but "With Thy Being and within Thee" (Oh! "Being of all Beings") that we could fully become to be one day.

 

"To be or not to be..."

 

 

 

[bbbb]

if alternate realities do exist then it may be some time before we develop the knowledge and technology to discover them. Anybody know of any next generation Einstein or Hawking?