S0V13T Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 StevenofNine: I think you missed my point entirely, but whatever, fight the good fight. synexo: I don't know if Bashir is gay, but you do make an interesting point. He's definatelly somewhere above metrosexual, now that I think of it. He was always way too well groomed, seemed as if he was wearing makeup half the time (not the TV make up either), hung out with too many women that he really had no intention, or chance of dating... one of his good friends, garek made dresses for a living... hrm... him and Chief O'Brien would spend hours in the holosuites alone playing macho, manly prorams. Neelix was with Kes for 3 seasons... dressed and acted extremely flamboyantelly... his only obvious friend WAS a little girl, thats not exactelly gay, but it IS pretty wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 StevenofNine: I think you missed my point entirely' date=' but whatever, fight the good fight.[/quote'] I think I got your point exactly, but I disagree with you. Being nice and sweet and pleasant and tolerant of Boris is not going to solve the problem. As the KKK demonstrates, sometimes ignorance and prejudice are impervious to openmindedness and explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Neelix was with Kes for 3 seasons... dressed and acted extremely flamboyantelly... his only obvious friend WAS a little girl, thats not exactelly gay, but it IS pretty wierd. Yeah, so ignore the fact that he left the ship to make a traditional hetero family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synexo Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Well, here goes for my first atempt at making a torrent, perhaps somebody will test this link for me? http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3328501/Hidden%20Frontier.torrent Tolver. Tolver sweety, and everyone else, if you want to see a truely tasteful depiction of what it will be like in the future aboard a spacecraft with an all gay crew, please download "Gayniggers From Outer Space". It's an excellent film. http://torrentspy.com/search.asp?mode=torrentdetails&id=187066 Toodles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Well, here goes for my first atempt at making a torrent, perhaps somebody will test this link for me? http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3328501/Hidden%20Frontier.torrent Tolver. I kept getting a timeout on the tracker connection. I don't know enough to tell you why that is. Try nite's tracker, it's back and running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synexo Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Neelix was with Kes for 3 seasons... dressed and acted extremely flamboyantelly... his only obvious friend WAS a little girl, thats not exactelly gay, but it IS pretty wierd. Yeah, so ignore the fact that he left the ship to make a traditional hetero family. Classic closet case. Neelix that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Neelix was obviouslly dating Kes as a cover. I mean, how could anyone suspect him of being gay when he's dating a hot lil' Okampa? They were dating for over 3 years, yet had seperate quarters? Why? Becuase Neelix was watching gay Klingon porn in his quarters aone with the door locked. Cant do that with a live in GF. And him leaving voyager to be in a nice TV friendly Hetero family? Hardly There was talaxian men on that asteroid he move to, and plenty of them. So what if neelix isn;t into Interracial stuff? And Steve, I thought you were arguing FOR tolerance? now your arguing against it? that makes a lot of sence. Gay Niggers From Outer Dpace is one of the most touching films I've ever seen. I'll be honest, I openly cried infront of my friends the first time I saw it. http://www.gnaa.us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolver Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 I kept getting a timeout on the tracker connection. I don't know enough to tell you why that is. Try nite's tracker, it's back and running. When I try to upload here I get; Fatal error: Cannot redeclare sqlesc() in C:\www\tracker\cache_functions.php on line 54 He may have switched the tracker, but the upload page is still down. Tolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Yah, got that same problem. Ah, well, guess we have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 StevenofNine: I think you missed my point entirely, but whatever, fight the good fight. synexo: I don't know if Bashir is gay, but you do make an interesting point. He's definatelly somewhere above metrosexual, now that I think of it. He was always way too well groomed, seemed as if he was wearing makeup half the time (not the TV make up either), hung out with too many women that he really had no intention, or chance of dating... one of his good friends, garek made dresses for a living... hrm... him and Chief O'Brien would spend hours in the holosuites alone playing macho, manly prorams. Neelix was with Kes for 3 seasons... dressed and acted extremely flamboyantelly... his only obvious friend WAS a little girl, thats not exactelly gay, but it IS pretty wierd. Lmao erm Bashir wasnt gay, remember he was with leita as well , not to mention he was after dax for 7 years as well and finally beds her in what we leave behind. And there is at least one episode where he was chating up some strange bird on the promonade. That makes 3 very good looking women that i can count, if anything picard was more gay than him as i can only recall him being with vash and flirting with the doc. coming to think of it i cant remember capt janeway scoring eitherm blimey data score more times than janeway and hes a toaster lol yeah he did spend time with o'biren but its just like going down the pub with your mates on a sunday afternoon to watch the footy (soccer to any non-brits lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I dont think this links has been posted on here actually but i thought it was really funny had me crying with laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2e Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I just skimmed though the topic and didn’t see this mentioned, and if it was I'm sorry. But has everyone forgotten about the 'Augment Arc' already? It was heavily implied that Pholx and the fat doctor from the embryo space station had a gay relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c4evap Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 So correct me if I'm wrong... OK. You're wrong...and now you're corrected. As for that picture someone posted with the words "You're A Homo" on it. Did you take that picture while standing in front of a mirror? Just wondering. c4 :thinking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V13T Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 So correct me if I'm wrong... OK. You're wrong...and now you're corrected. I stand corrected then. So sorry all gay people of the Earth for trying to understand you, instead of just assuming that you're inferior without attempting to talk to you, or getting your opinion on things (Emma, Carl / Matthew, Sean, Mom / Wendy, Ruth / Barb especially). My apologies to you all. It seems that my feeble attempt to look at things from a different ponit of view has failed, and the side I was trying to argue for has refused me. Well, I for one am fed up with gay men trying to pick me up at the bar. Yes I said mom up there in my token gay list, It's true, lets have the backlash then. But no one will ever quote that becuase I'm apaentelly some kind of misfit / homophobe / gay basher. So Be It. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyran Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 FOOLS there are gay people in startrek but like straight people they don't have sex in public so how can you tell ? let people live the way they want this is a silly argument and and boris was only joking i think boris ? was you joking ? surely there arn't still people like that around ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDad Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 http://www.gaire.com/trek/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 So let me get this 'straight', (pardon the pun).... Boris attacks gays, and the gays (if that's not a PC way to put it, I mean no offence) / gay sympethisers start attacking Boris? So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that those attacking Boris is just as guilty for the whole 'cycle of hate' as he is here. Find some common ground, try to see the situation from the other persons pespective. :P Heavens no. Boris, has been rather polite and tolerant about all this actually. Far as I recall, Boris never bashes gays, he just sites rather odd reasons for not being gay, AND for "other unhealthy" lifestyles (in his view) that may deplete your energy, symetry, etc. Personally, I like Boris, and he has made some incredibly well thought out posts here and there. It's just that certain of his conclusions, are seen as being debateable by many, and for some of us, extremely humorous, in their possible connotations. I mean, have you seen his website? I'd just like to see Boris let an older dead issue finally rest tho. In a sense, I feel badly for him, as he is obviously festering a wound... and in my opinion, that wound, may not really exist in some or most of our eyes. I'm sure if any of us were to meet him in person, we would see him as a very likeable fellow. Perhaps in the "Trek Future' date='" "Tolver and BorisP will be gay lovers" and the Universe will have finally achieved perfect harmony.[/quote'] ^ that's a joke, maybe a lousy one, do not take it seriously.... Besides that' date=' it would just be annoying if there was some guy running around with a lisp and pink tu-tu. What are you looking for, half the crew singing 'YMCA' on the bridge?[/quote'] LMAO..... Perhaps in the "Trek Future' date='" "The Village People" are the most popular group in recorded history.[/quote'] And those of you how took synexo seriously...... LMFAO.... he's one of the most humorous and dry humor sorta fellas around here. His and cOgs' humor, have cracked me up so many times now, I can't even remember. Perhaps in the "Trek Future," people like GeneralLee are finally removed from the gene poll, and the known Universe, exist in a state of near perfect harmony.... that is until those f$#&ing time travelers from the 29th century, make a fatal mistake, and screw everything up again.....the bastids.... hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolver Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Well, it has been my experience that straight men are scared that gay men will treat them the same way that straight men treat women, like pieces of meat to be consumed and shat out. Straight men think that because they want to stick their dicks into women that gay men must want to stick their dicks into straight men, when in actuality straight men have little concept of clenleness and are so messy inside that gay men have little to no interest in sticking their dicks into straight men, rather the reverse where gay men that are interested in straight men are interested in the straight men putting their dicks into the gay men. Straight men are scared of being treated as pieces of meat because of the low regard that they hold people in whom they treat as pieces of meat. Straight men are jellous that gay men have WAY more sex than straight men have, as straight women realise the power they weild and restrict access to sex in order to controll straight men. Straight men are not opposed to homosexuality as most straight men LOVE the idea of women praticing homosexuality, after all doesnt EVERYBODY love pussy - even other pussy should love getting some pussy because its what straight men are interested in - and the ONLY things that matter in the world are things that straight men are interested in. I am TRULY hated by most straight men because at age 17 I got married to my 18 year old Husband, and as of november 1'st we will have been together for 20 years, this year where he turns 38 and I turn 37. My Husband And I Are The Youngest Longest Married Gay Couple In America. A longer marriage than any set of our parents and WAY longer than any of our siblings. I am a happy well adjusted healthy comfortable gay man, a deadly sin, for acording to straight male doctrine I should be unhappy diseased mishapen deformed rejected and anything else despicable that comes to mind. And worst of all, since being male I know better than females what a good blowjob is supposed to feel like, and being with another gay male I recieve the BEST blowjobs whenever I want them. Good blowjobs being something generaly denied to straight men. So from MY point of view, whenever I get ragged on by a straight male for my being gay it just reenforces my own sence of superiority. I am happily married, in good health, and have no children to asorbe my income. What mere words from a breeder can do me harm? Thus you dont see me defending myself on a constant basis, for I have no need to. I would perfer that the subject stay on 'Gay Trek' as opposed to speculation upon my personal sexual proclivities. If you must know I will tell you this much, even after 20 years I still have great sex on average of every 4 days. So can we put to rest the importance of where I put my dick at night and get back to the topic at hand, Gay Trek, that I have found VERY interesting, as many good points have been raised about the subtle instences of gayness that were inserted into Trek in general to be discoverd only after the origional broadcasts. Tolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralLee Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Oh come on Tolver, have you really seen any gay bashing truly going on around here? Most of us here are very open minded people, and got over thoughts like that when we were teens, that is if we ever even had them, far as I can tell. I think it is horrible what some people; you as a male, and some out there, as females, must go thru. It makes me seriously cringe and shudder.... It doesn't bother me at all. Matter of fact, I never personally felt anything bad against "them," since my youngest brother is gay, and seemed to be since a child, and, in my teens we had a male exchange student from Brazil living in our home, who was blatantly gay/bi. Hell, I could easily turn gay at anytime, and I'd be lying if I ever said I never thought about trying it out... Big deal... So you are gay. Ya want a medal? Join the military then.... . My hat is off to you tho for staying as a couple for so long, thats very cool. If all that you said is indeed true, that is very admireable. And worst of all' date=' since being male I know better than females what a good blowjob is supposed to feel like, and being with another gay male I recieve the BEST blowjobs whenever I want them. Good blowjobs being something generaly denied to straight men.[/quote'] Got any pics or videos of that? I know a few gals who could use some pointers... EDIT: Never mind, I just found this website, it's a looker... http://ideepthroat.com/ Perhaps in the "Trek Future' date='" penises, will no longer go, where they have never been before....[/quote'] or... Perhaps in the VERY near future' date=' it will be revealed, that Tolver, and BorisP, are one and the same, and have two log-ons to the forums...one is Jeckyl..., one, is Hyde....[/quote'] or... Perhaps in the VERY near future' date=' c4evap, and Pella, will meet in person, become an understanding couple, and the world will be further along on it's way to the "Trek Future" which awaits it...[/quote'] or maybe this one... Perhaps in the VERY near future' date=' GeneralLee, and Elderbear, will meet in person, become an understanding couple, and the world will be further along on it's way to the "Trek Future" which awaits it...[/quote'] screw those 29th century time travelers anyway.... I just wanna a great bj.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenofNine Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 And Steve, I thought you were arguing FOR tolerance? now your arguing against it? that makes a lot of sence. Yeah, I'm a hypocritical tolerant. I tolerate innocent misunderstanding, and the diversity of man, unless it's simple, self-indulgent pig-ignorance. That, I won't tolerate. Defending one's opinion with pseudo-logical garbage intended solely to put a professional sheen on hatred doesn't earn, require or deserve anyone's respect, my own included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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